Barbeque area supply

[Ross1]

Hi all,

I need to supply an outdoor barbeque area with sockets and lights. (10m away from house)

Running a distribution circuit from the cu in house will be extremly difficult due to location.

The system is Tncs. House is 10 year old.

Im thinking of spuring off a socket on the downstairs ring main to supply a db at the barbeque area, not connecting the earth at the barbeque end but knock a rod in for the outdoor db.

Id like your thoughts please.

Thanks

 

[Octopus]

^^ bad idea. Not sure BS 7671 regs would agree with this.

FCU off RFC and bin the BBQ area CU is the way to go.

 

[westward10]

Why does in need a small CU. Use a single radial down to sockets and off to the lights.

 

[Ross1]

^^ bad idea. Not sure BS 7671 regs would agree with this.

FCU off RFC and bin the BBQ area CU is the way to go.

^^ bad idea. Not sure BS 7671 regs would agree with this.

FCU off RFC and bin the BBQ area CU is the way to go.

Im reluctant to go the fcu off rfc route as the loading might top this by a few amps on occasion.

How about opening the rfc up to incorporate the sockets outdoors and fcu the lighting from an outdoor socket.

 

[Octopus]

Im reluctant to go the fcu off rfc route as the loading might top this by a few amps on occasion.

How about opening the rfc up to incorporate the sockets outdoors and fcu the lighting from an outdoor socket.

Not a good idea.... always best to have a DP switch between the house circuit and the outdoors circuit so when the RCD starts tripping, the client can switch off the outside bit!

 

[7029 dave]

Why does in need a small CU. Use a single radial down to sockets and off to the lights.

People just like to complicate. I am with you.

 

[Dave OCD]

^^ bad idea. Not sure BS 7671 regs would agree with this.

FCU off RFC and bin the BBQ area CU is the way to go.

Yeah fair enough, but if you were to use a larger cable with 32amp capacity and also fit an isolator at the supply end I can't see a problem, just to give a bit more flexibility than the FCU would allow ?

 

[Dave OCD]

Why does in need a small CU. Use a single radial down to sockets and off to the lights.

Via a 3 or 5 amp FCU of course.

 

[7029 dave]

Via a 3 or 5 amp FCU of course.

Well of course Dave.

 

[telectrix]

Via a 3 or 5 amp FCU of course.

what's wrong with a 32A nail?

 

[Dave OCD]

Difficult to calibrate Tel, does rust increase or reduce the rating ?

 

[7029 dave]

what's wrong with a 32A nail?

You guys up north still using the farmers fuse.?

 

[westward10]

Via a 3 or 5 amp FCU of course.

Off a 13A fcu at source no further protection required. I don't get this 32A supply what are they plugging into the sockets.

 

[7029 dave]

Off a 13A fcu at source no further protection required. I don't get this 32A supply what are they plugging into the sockets.

The way I took it, if it went on a dedicated radial say 16amp back to the CU, I would want to spur down the lights on FCU.

 

[Specialist]

You guys up north still using the farmers fuse.?

More commonly known as a piece of barbed wire ?.

 

[Midwest]

Oh okay here's a link to a forum download; Exporting Pme - http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/resources/exporting-pme.101/

Ross you've still not mentioned what the sockets are being used for (Im reluctant to go the fcu off rfc route as the loading might top this by a few amps on occasion).

Are they plugging in patio heaters or a hot tub ().