Bathroom ceiling spots recommendation

[AJB Temple]

I have 16 ceiling spots to be replaced in a room being repurposed as a bathroom. Some will be over a shower, basin and bath hence need to be IP65.
Past experience with sealed unit (ie bulb cannot be replaced) bathroom spots is that they fail long before claimed lifetime and are then difficult or impossible to match. This has happened in two bathrooms on installations from a professional electrician (who has now decamped to Ireland and is staying there). Four units failed in under 2 years.

Please can you guys recommend some IP65 suitable lights that are likely to be reliable and wont break the bank. Bezel can be SS, black or white. There is a vast array online and it is impossible to know which are good and which are rubbish.

Thanks, Adrian

 

[nicebutdim]

Thanks NbutD. I am dealing with a 60mm cut out currently but could deal with that by maing blanking plates. Will take a look at the ansell product.

Just realised it was the lens size you'd referred to and I'd been under the impression it was bezel size.

I've fitted a few of the units linked below now. 70mm cutout (easy for you to enlarge existing holes), smallish lens (although not quite as small as you've been tasked with finding), fire rated, IP65, 5 year warranty, choice of bezel finish.

Colour temp is also selectable from under bezel. I don't imagine many people change colour temp once lights are fitted, but like the idea of not needing to pull it out of the ceiling if one should happen to be set incorrectly.

Edit: Almost forgot the best bit - prewired with quickwire T-connector, so 60 seconds to 2nd fix as long as wired in T&E.

Quickwire-Ricoman Fire Rated Downlight

Quickwire now provide a market leading fire rated downlight that comes factory fitted with a Quickwire plug & socket.

www.quickwire.co.uk

 

[AJB Temple]

This is such a helpful forum. Thanks guys. All really good stuff. I was unaware you could buy conversion plates to cover the ceiling holes. Those quickwire lights might satisfy what she wants. I'm not too fussed about speed of installation as no one is paying me to do it and I just take my time and do it right. Todays job is rewiring oil boiler switches.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I your OH really wants small diameter lights have a look at decking lights seem to come in all sorts of small diameters, IP should not be a problem either.

 

[nicebutdim]

This is such a helpful forum. Thanks guys. All really good stuff. I was unaware you could buy conversion plates to cover the ceiling holes. Those quickwire lights might satisfy what she wants. I'm not too fussed about speed of installation as no one is paying me to do it and I just take my time and do it right. Todays job is rewiring oil boiler switches.

The T-connector does a bit more than save time on 2nd fix. Cables can be terminated in their half, which allows power to the circuit without downlights being in place. It also means quick disconnect if you wanted to remove for painting or replacement. It was the Quickwire connectors which first drew me to these lights, but purchases (both initial and subsequent) have been made on the basis of *perceived quality.

I state 'perceived' as it has only been 18 months or so since I first fitted them, but they appear to be well made and are backed by a decent warranty.

I your OH really wants small diameter lights have a look at decking lights seem to come in all sorts of small diameters, IP should not be a problem either.

Deck/plinth lights tend to be quite low output as they're intended for 'mood' lighting. Several manufacturers now offer mini downlights for general lighting, but after recommending one I realised the OP wants small lens (not a small can) and needs to fill a 60mm cutout.

 

[Mike Johnson]

That's why I directed the OP towards:

These could help: LEDlite Hole Conversion Plate - Chrome | LEDlite (LTHCP Chrome) - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/LTHCPC.html