bathroom down lights - notifiable?

[penguinlicker]

good afternoon.

ive got a chap coming to change my db and i also want to change my bathroom lights to downlights.

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these look like i can just drill a hole and put them in. i don't have to add a cover in the loft like the below as well do i?

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i'm happy for the sparky to do the lights as well if the light job is also notifiable but if the job isn't then i can do it myself.

the bathroom has a 2.45m high ceiling. i know work in a bathroom is notifiable, but i've seen people online argue that if it's outside the zones (specifically lights higher than 225) it's not notifiable. even if it's in a bathroom.

is this right? this image confuses me as it appears that above a shower for 60cm is zone 2. so that would take zone 2 to 285 meaning that if i wanted a downlight above my shower i would have to get the sparky to do it so he can notify?

would anyone be able to clear this up for me? thank you for reading

 

[stevethesparks]

Why wait? Connect them up if you are competent. Your electricians job is to change the board.... he’ll do some testing beforehand and afterwards.
If the downlights are IP rated, as most of them are, there shouldn’t be a problem.

Then he would be connecting non RCD protected lights in the bathroom

 

[littlespark]

Then he would be connecting non RCD protected lights in the bathroom

Did I miss where it said it wasn’t already rcd protected?

he’s getting the board changed anyway, so temporaraly non rcd would soon be rectified.

 

[stevethesparks]

Did I miss where it said it wasn’t already rcd protected?

he’s getting the board changed anyway, so temporaraly non rcd would soon be rectified.

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Thanks everyone. I have a megger tester to do zs and rcd times. the lights aren’t rcd protected at the moment but will be after I get a registered guy to replace the dB. so I’ll physically fit the lights now but connect them up after the chaps changed the board. thanks again
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[Deleted member 112675]

Posts 2, 4, 6, & 8 are correct but I'd say leave it to the sparky.
Is the lighting circuit RCD protected?
If so does it trip within the specified times?
Do you have equipment to measure the Zs as I notice they are a class 1 fitting, does the lighting circuit even have a cpc?
Is the supplementary bonding in the bathroom up to scratch?
You will also need to complete a minor works certificate - showing readings as above.

You don't know if the OP has a MFT or not but your questions seem to suggest you are against DIY in general and in general I would agree with you. However, there are some people who really take the time to understand what is required and obtain the equipment necessary. It is very sad that because there are so many bodgers (not only DIYers but many of them professional tradesmen) we have a situation where people are accused of illegal activities in their own home (I'm not suggesting you are doing this).

I stopped using many trades some years ago not to save money but because many of them are bodgers. I could reel off a list longer than my arm of C2 and C3 faults I've found in my house over the years. There are some excellent tradesmen too but what does Mrs Miggins care about for example a bare connector block burried 5mm into plaster, if when she presses the button the lights come on?