Being self employed and the coronavirus

[davesparks]

you might not think its an emergency but tell that to a young family who have no way to cook food .and as for a leaking washing machine a large proportion have the isolating valve behind the machine and how many people can move a machine to isolate it

That is still not an emergency, it is inconvenient but they can eat cold meals for a little while. Why does it matter if they are young? People of any age will be inconvenienced by not having a cooker for a while.

Most people should be capable of moving a machine to isolate it, they can turn off the main stopcock whilst they work out how to move the machine.
Yes some people can't move a machine to do this, but with the probability of the fault occurring, then the probability of it occurring in a house where the occupants can't deal with it, or becomes a rarer and rarer occurrence.

 

[Sintra]

Sorry about the accident but in this national crisis it will be easier to get your meds.

he left he’s words open to interpretation, it’s a shame we are not all fortunate enough to interpret them equally

Yes his wording is a bit like our regs at the moment but the wording for this will be made crystal clear a lot quicker.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I think we're all going to have to consider which jobs we HAVE to go out to and which we don't, but I would have thought virtually all jobs should be cancelled. All bar 1 of my jobs are now cancelled. The one job I have left is to fit a cooker for an 83 year old as she has nothing to cook on. It's difficult to work out if that really is necessary though for the next 3 weeks (minimum)? I think it is, but it's a judgement call and I'm uncomfortable with it.

 

[davesparks]

How is not working when necessary to feed myself, kids and pay bills not absolutely necessary...
Your last sentence appears to me as a little dig at my behaviour Sintra. If it is then it is such a misplaced comment. Without knowing how I have been conducting myself whilst in the presence of other members of the public in the past week or two your comment has no basis.

We've all seen this coming for weeks and put a sensible amount of food away to get through this haven't we?
Likewise we've all seen it coming and cut as much of our spending as possible to save money for the event.

 

[NDG Elecs]

Not having a dig but the advise from the government is basically to stay at home with whoever lives with you to stop the virus spreading between households. As for the food and bills etc. that will be sorted by government money.

Fair enough.

But it is that advice I am following. As I have been doing all along. I have two toilet rolls and half a loaf of bread in at the minute. I have been avoiding the shops for the very reason of allowing distance between myself and others. I figured it was better to allow things to calm with the manic buying before I stock up. I cannot express how diligent I have been in as many aspects of my behaviour as possible.

Tomorrow morning I shall leave my house. Fifteen mins later I will arrive at work. I will work alone all day then drive home. It is actually safer for me to be at work than it is for me to go for 'essential' supplies as many covidiots will be doing...


Oh, and to add; the government has handled many aspects quite well I think bar the treatment of self employed and lack of testing. This is not a dig at the Tories or otherwise as I do not believe in the party system.

 

[davesparks]

..he left he’s words open to interpretation, it’s a shame we are not all fortunate enough to interpret them equally

He couldn't stand there and go in to every tiny little detail, the speeches need to be short and to the point.
They can't make anything more than a general statement.

Also until the legislation is passed they may not be able to enforce a 100% isolation, but the isolation is needed sooner than the legislation can be put in place.
So they must rely on the public having the common sense to get the message and not go looking for loopholes and coming up with whatever excuse they can for why everyone in the country except them should be isolated.

 

[NDG Elecs]

We've all seen this coming for weeks and put a sensible amount of food away to get through this haven't we?
Likewise we've all seen it coming and cut as much of our spending as possible to save money for the event.

I haven't stockpiled personally no Dave. My spending is very little also. Divorced two kids do the maths!!

 

[Sintra]

Fair enough.

But it is that advice I am following. As I have been doing all along. I have two toilet rolls and half a loaf of bread in at the minute. I have been avoiding the shops for the very reason of allowing distance between myself and others. I figured it was better to allow things to calm with the manic buying before I stock up. I cannot express how diligent I have been in as many aspects of my behaviour as possible.

Tomorrow morning I shall leave my house. Fifteen mins later I will arrive at work. I will work alone all day then drive home. It is actually safer for me to be at work than it is for me to go for 'essential' supplies as many covidiots will be doing...

Delivery services are still available from the supermarkets which means the driver can dump it on your doorstep. Reduces a lot of risk for all parties.

 

[James360]

I think we're all going to have to consider which jobs we HAVE to go out to and which we don't, but I would have thought virtually all jobs should be cancelled. All bar 1 of my jobs are now cancelled. The one job I have left is to fit a cooker for an 83 year old as she has nothing to cook on. It's difficult to work out if that really is necessary though for the next 3 weeks (minimum)? I think it is, but it's a judgement call and I'm uncomfortable with it.

i totally agree i am not sure how to reconcile it

 

[NDG Elecs]

Delivery services are still available from the supermarkets which means the driver can dump it on your doorstep. Reduces a lot of risk for all parties.

I bet many supermarkets are chock a block tomorrow still though... Everyone a few feet apart...

 

[Sintra]

I bet many supermarkets are chock a block tomorrow still though... Everyone a few feet apart...

I won’t disagree on that ?

 

[telectrix]

Not having a dig but the advise from the government is basically to stay at home with whoever lives with you to stop the virus spreading between households. As for the food and bills etc. that will be sorted by government money.

have to disagree there. govt. money, if and when, could take weeks. how is that going to buy food for tomorrow or the next day? and for us self-employed, it's going to be a minefield. more form filling than a week of EICRs just to get a few quid a week.

and @ davesparks.... a broken cooker is an emergency in my mind. no cooker, no eat. no eat, die.

suppose i could knaw at a frozen leg of lamb out of the freezer though.
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I think we're all going to have to consider which jobs we HAVE to go out to and which we don't, but I would have thought virtually all jobs should be cancelled. All bar 1 of my jobs are now cancelled. The one job I have left is to fit a cooker for an 83 year old as she has nothing to cook on. It's difficult to work out if that really is necessary though for the next 3 weeks (minimum)? I think it is, but it's a judgement call and I'm uncomfortable with it.

i would class that as essential. as in anything that helps vunerable people.

 

[Baddegg]

Apparently sports direct workers are key workers ?......these bosses have no shame do they!.....I bet they are “working from home” though!
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Anyone seen the pictures of the tubes this morning?....shocking!....but what is driving these people to risk it?

 

[telectrix]

apparently you can get corona virus from Amazon tomorrow but only if you order before 10.00 p.m. today.

 

[davesparks]

Anyone seen the pictures of the tubes this morning?....shocking!....but what is driving these people to risk it?

Horrible bosses,
zero hour contracts (they can get help and 80% of their average AFAIK but the bosses won't tell them that)
The great British 'it won't affect me, I never catch these things' attitude
'I think I've had it so I'm immune now'
'I self isolated last week so I've done my turn at it'
.............