Bit of a moan about appliances

[Jay Sparks]

Hi Guys & Gals

Iv'e done a bit of work in a kitchen, extending sockets, adding FCUS etc. I went down there the other day to speak with the kitchen fitter and show him where I wanted him to bring my cable through the back of the units (cooker switch, FCU for built in appliances). Anyway, he was happy to do it but then mentioned that he might not be able to fit the fridge as the plug it comes with, will stick out to far and it won't go fully back. He then said the same thing about dishwasher! The only thing I could think of that made sense, was to change the 1G sockets to FCU's.

Anyway, my rant is basically at the appliance manufacturers. Why do they not leave enough space at the back of the appliance for it to be plugged it? How do they think it will work?

Has anyone else had this sort of problem? I haven't done a kitchen for a few years and never had a problem before.

Jay

 

[Jay Sparks]

replace socket with an unswitched FCU. job done.

That's what I told the fitter I would do but he then said if an engineer had to come out to replace or repair it, they wouldn't touch it if the plug had been cut off. Although he was all for removing the socket front and fitting it with Wagos!!

Jay

 

[David M]

That's what I told the fitter I would do but he then said if an engineer had to come out to replace or repair it, they wouldn't touch it if the plug had been cut off. Although he was all for removing the socket front and fitting it with Wagos!!

Jay

The warranty thing is an argument all on its own. I can't see why the warranty would be invalidated if a new plug was correctly installed. What happens if the moulded plug gets damaged at anytime? Is this covered by the warranty? and if so how would they go about repairing the problem?

 

[DPG]

The problem with removing the plug from an appliance is that it will probably invalidate the warranty. I try to fit the socket in the unit next to the appliance where possible although this means cutting a hole big enough for a plug top to pass through in the back of the unit, and sometimes it isn't possible if there are drawers next to the appliance.

Aaaaaaaaarggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[telectrix]

more aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhh.

 

[telectrix]

problem with cutting off plug and threading cable through small hole is not the warranty. it's appliance service engineer monkey incapable of removing a plug.

 

[Jay Sparks]

I agree with all the above about the warranty thing but as I said, this is what the kitchen fitter said, so let him crack on.

Jay

 

[valleybilly]

We fit loads of imported appliances and they all have euro 2 pin plugs fitted as standard so guess what we have to do ?. Most manufacturers only state about replacing the cable being replaced by them not the attached plug. Just an old wifes tail passed on to the fitter by another chancer he probibly worked with. The sale of goods act trumps warranties in this situation anyway with reguards appliance issues anyway.

 

[Had8Lives]

As you already have a FCU for each appliance, replace the single socket with a connection plate. If any appliance has a fuse in the moulded plug less than 13 amps, put that in the FCU and label the FCU with the fuse rating

 

[Jay Sparks]

As you already have a FCU for each appliance, replace the single socket with a connection plate. If any appliance has a fuse in the moulded plug less than 13 amps, put that in the FCU and label the FCU with the fuse rating

I thought about a bull nose type connection plate. But the fitter said he would sort it, so I said crack on. I had done my part that was asked by the customer. If he went and changed things, that's his prerogative.

Jay

 

[Midwest]

Right stop this cutting off the plug invalidates the warranty thing.

I did a rather intensive email (at great expense & time to myself, I might add ) survey of about eight major manufactures last year, and only one had an issue with cutting their moulded plugs. I've lost the link to that particular thread, and I can't remember who said no, might have been Howdens (who supply Lamona?)

Do quite a few kitchens, and if I can't mount socket in an adjacent unit, cut off the plug, use a flex outlet plate, fed via FCU above worktop.

 

[mydigitalhome]

Scolemore minigrid dp switches serving appliances nice and easy and makes for a very neat installation. Best bit they do 32A dp switches for hob.

 

[streamer]

Right stop this cutting off the plug invalidates the warranty thing.

I feel like Alan Davies when he gives the obvious, and incorrect, answer on QI and Stephen Fry shakes his head with indignation! Mr Midwest, I bow to your superior knowledge.

 

[Midwest]

I feel like Alan Davies when he gives the obvious, and incorrect, answer on QI and Stephen Fry shakes his head with indignation! Mr Midwest, I bow to your superior knowledge.

I was in the 'don't cut off the plug' camp, until I did my 'research'

 

[westward10]

I was in the 'don't cut off the plug' camp, until I did my 'research'

And have you done it yet, did it feel good

 

[Midwest]

And have you done it yet, did it feel good

I closed my eyes when I did it. Afterwards, I buried the remains in the skip. Had a restless nights sleep.