Board Change, satsifactory report

[graham123]

Hi all, am going to be doing an inspection on a property which the customer wants a satisfactory report. ie no c1's, c2's. First question Bathroom lighting circut has no 30ma rcd protection, so a C2, next problem lighting circut into bathroom has no Cpc. Can i get around this by installing supplementary bonding in the bathroom?. What does no earth in lighting circuts go down as? C1?. I suspect the board my be a rewire able so possibility of a new board, but how can i give them a satisfactory report? my mind boggles. Thanks

 

[trev]

The customer dictating how the report will come out? That's a good one. Your report will be what it will be mate, all you can do is code it up and quote for any remedials needed/recommended

 

[stef]

Is the bathroom upstairs? You might have some luck in a lighting junction box in the attic finding a CPC in there...

 

[graham123]

The client will be paying for the remedial's but not a rewire

 

[somersetsparks]

Well no earthing in lighting circuits goes down as a c3 as long as no class 1 (metallic) fixtures are used and a suitable label fixed at the db. IMO if it has no earth and it has an enclosed ip rated fitting, it would not require supplementary bonding either, although I would wait for someone to confirm/diasagree with this, all other bathroom circuits would require 30ma protection or supplementary bonding.
If you fit a new board just fit an rcbo on the lighting, it will still give shock protection.

 

[graham123]

Can i even put an ip65 fitting in the bathroom tho because that would require an earth connection?

 

[gnselectricals]

Depending in age of install I'd say both lack of RCD c3 and lack of cpc to lights c3, as long as no class 1 items and circuit is 2 core throughout. I would recommend to my clients RCD protection & lighting circuit rewire would be beneficial. Is bonding satisfatory ?

 

[somersetsparks]

Can i even put an ip65 fitting in the bathroom tho because that would require an earth connection?

You can get class 2 fittings, what about the faithful 'globe' type, cheap and cheerful but does the job!

 

[gnselectricals]

I fitted fern Howard class 2 ip65 lights last week, not cheap about £30 per fitting

 

[Geordie Spark]

The customer dictating how the report will come out? That's a good one. Your report will be what it will be mate, all you can do is code it up and quote for any remedials needed/recommended

It sounds to me like a case of "You give me very nice report & later I give you very nice Balti"

 

[trev]

I've had that offer Geordie, I never got the curry but he did pay the bill under protest.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I've had that offer Geordie, I never got the curry but he did pay the bill under protest.

I have an'all bonny lad ..... but in my case it was for a gas job that I felt obliged to walk away from.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Hi all, am going to be doing an inspection on a property which the customer wants a satisfactory report. ie no c1's, c2's. First question Bathroom lighting circut has no 30ma rcd protection, so a C2, next problem lighting circut into bathroom has no Cpc. Can i get around this by installing supplementary bonding in the bathroom?. What does no earth in lighting circuts go down as? C1?. I suspect the board my be a rewire able so possibility of a new board, but how can i give them a satisfactory report? my mind boggles. Thanks

Graham, have a read through the guide below, some of your code suggestions are rather strange and how would installing supplementary bonding allow you to 'get around' the lack of a CPC to a lighting circuit?

http://www.esc.org.uk/fileadmin/use...y/best_practice/BestPracticeGuide4-Locked.pdf

 

[graham123]

I was under the impression that if you had a lighting circuit which did have a cpc, then you could install supplementary bonding and you would not require rcd protection. But im not sure about lighting circuit with no cpc, is their no alternative to a rewire of that circuit?

 

[Geordie Spark]

I was under the impression that if you had a lighting circuit which did have a cpc, then you could install supplementary bonding and you would not require rcd protection. But im not sure about lighting circuit with no cpc, is their no alternative to a rewire of that circuit?

Candles perhaps? :clown: