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"My point was we had to give up the majority of our fishing grounds when we first joined, that was balanced out with access to Icelands fishing grounds but if I recall it was 2012 that Iceland pulled which decimated our industries, "

Iceland extended the fishing limits to 200 miles in 1975, recognised by Britain in 1976 after the cod wars.
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" this is why we were buying fish from countries that caught it in our own waters and paying premium price for it."

My recollection is that the fishing companies were getting a better price in Europe than in Britain.
 
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"Iceland's fishing minister has said the country would "never join the European Union" because the country is thriving outside.

The country applied to join the EU in 2009, but dropped the application last year.

A key factor, said Gunnar Bragi Sveinsson, was the desire to retain control over fishing grounds.

The nation now has one of the most modern and productive fishing industries in the world."

Source: Iceland fishing trade 'better off out' - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36587253
 
re fishing waters... the frogs and the spaniels have had it so good for so long, raping our waters, now it's going to bite them on the arse. they don't like it up 'em, Mr. Mainwaring. sod 'em.
 
" re fishing waters... the frogs and the spaniels have had it so good for so long, raping our waters, now it's going to bite them on the arse."

Our govt. gave them all that in exchange for preferential city of London treatment.
I'd agree about limiting quotas for everyone.
 
Overly strong worded there, Tel. I’m sure our closest euro neighbours don’t like being called frogs.
Now get back to theiving, you scouse git.
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get your clan skirt and claymore dusted off. this is war, you sweaty sock. :p :p :p. and don't forget, it was Napoleon who first though of a channel tunnel, so his frogs could conquer us Brits.
 
The Spanish market for Scottish shellfish is huge.
They pay more for it than we are prepared to "shell" out.
However, they demand a certain level of supply.
Thus, you can't buy it quay-side anymore, unless the fisherman has filled his quota and has some spare.
However, if the shellfish lorry is held up at a border now, those shellfish may die, so the load is worthless.
We need to man up, and pay the right price.
Take away the transport cost and the price is more acceptable.
The option is to ignore the problem and put hundreds out of work.
Trust me...I know this.
 
"My point was we had to give up the majority of our fishing grounds when we first joined, that was balanced out with access to Icelands fishing grounds but if I recall it was 2012 that Iceland pulled which decimated our industries, "

Iceland extended the fishing limits to 200 miles in 1975, recognised by Britain in 1976 after the cod wars.
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" this is why we were buying fish from countries that caught it in our own waters and paying premium price for it."

My recollection is that the fishing companies were getting a better price in Europe than in Britain.
I'll agree with the cod war situation and yes it hit the fishing industry but nothing like when Iceland fully pulled out, and where was the EU to realise our situation, turned its back and basically said stick it, again I will reflect on the reversal of the situation and now how the EU is demanding we cannot do to those countries the same as they did to us, there is gross irony here and what may come is well deserved in my opinion, I am epathetic for the fishermen that may lose out but they cannot attack us for this, they should reflect on there own governments past selfish position and that of the EU before blaming us.
 
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Why are you getting bent out of shape over the fishing industry when it’s less than the turn over of HA RODS? Won’t be any fish left soon with the over fishing. We’ll all be vegan soon anyway.
 
Have you got a reference for that?
Firstly I probably should have expanded on my comment as to what I was referring to, you mentioned the cod wars of the past but that has been superseded by the mackerel wars that are still going on to some extent, the UK were a heavy fisher of mackerel and the story behind this is very complex but here is a link below, basically Iceland were set to join the EU but the financial crash bankrupt Iceland, they resorted to replenishing their fishing industry and ignored all agreed limitations on quota's, they fell out of favour with the EU and withdrew their application to join, meanwhile they imposed restrictions on fishing for other breeds from the EU within their waters and also forced the hand of the EU which left our fisheries badly damaged.
The point of bringing all this up is that the EU left us high and dry and failed to balance fishing within our own waters following the damage done by Iceland pulling out of the game, we put our complaints to Brussels but we were ignored and all those countries making a tidy profit in our waters voted down our plea, hence I said Karma - the coin has turned and now these same nations are saying we cannot take our waters back because it would badly damage their own industries yet they sat back and watched ours go and failed to offer even a small olive branch.

It is a long read and really doesn't get to the point until the header 'The conflict escalates' and what also badly damaged us 'Loss of marine stewardship'.

Brexit is our chance to reboot the industry under our own terms and sell to a new world trade that is heading our way, so even if the EU puts heavy tariffs on fish it will not do any damage, we simply fish for our new market all of which will generate thousands of jobs regardless.

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Why are you getting bent out of shape over the fishing industry when it’s less than the turn over of HA RODS? Won’t be any fish left soon with the over fishing. We’ll all be vegan soon anyway.
The turnover is not the way to look at this, it is the jobs it can create if we can get back our fishing industry, a large company can employ 100,000 people and make a profit of £1000 and fall below the tax line, this still means the company is viable and 100,000 people are in payed jobs and will spend their wages which puts back into the economy.
If we can take back our waters then the boost to fishing industry also creates jobs down the line for new and old companies in the supply chain, your error here is reading into a figure and % of what the fishing industry directly generates to the total economic figures, this is often deliberately played out this way for political reasons and bias, brexit has exposed so much bias in the media and this is a prime example, what the pro EU bias fail to promote and is what is important is that the jobs it will generate is the key thing, pitting the % of national revenue is irrelevent.
 
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% of national revenue is relevant. Fishing rights are worth a lot to the EU but nothing to Westminster, hence it is extremely likely that Westminster will trade away our fishing rights. Again
 

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