Brexit. We’re out!

[Darkwood]

Doubt it. It would refuse to leave the harbour and get its planes to attack Capitol Hill....

Joking aside, the ring leaders who pushed forward and breached Capitol Hill were Antifa and BLM activists, many of the arrests by FBI have identified these people and found evidence of pre arranged attack to stage it all and make it look like trump supporters, there is also supporting video evidence that security opened the side doors and let in genuine trump supporters so they could blame Trump for inciting it.
The issue with the democrats claims against Trump is that Trump had 20mins left of his speech when Antifa pushed forward and entered Capitol hill, those that were present watching Trumps speech would have actually turned up 30mins late had they walked the short journey following the speech they claimed incited the rioting ..

Just a few facts the media fails to tell you.

One of the ring leaders has already been arrested and charged as he filmed the whole event and stupidly incriminated himself, they found he used Twitter and Facebook to pre organise the attack.

He is a self confessed far left activist, he and several other arrests are of people inciting the events all with a history with either Antifa, BLM or both... funny I never saw any of this on our news yet they still peddle Trump as the inciter regardless that has since been shown not to be the case.

 

[electric al]

It wouldnt surprise me tbh.
The far left did everything possible to undermine Trumps presidency from the outset.
Many of these people were involved in the media and there was definitely some truth in the " fake news " claims. I honestly don't think Trump covered himself in glory post election result but I think it will be difficult to make the charge of incitement stick.

 

[Paul L]

Blimey Darkwood,our local football team could do with you,best advert for a right winger we could ever have ?. Joking aside you are perfectly entitled to your views but I don't think we can say Trump and his supporters are blameless in this,wrongs on all sides I'm sure

 

[andyb]

Joking aside, the ring leaders who pushed forward and breached Capitol Hill were Antifa and BLM activists, many of the arrests by FBI have identified these people and found evidence of pre arranged attack to stage it all and make it look like trump supporters, there is also supporting video evidence that security opened the side doors and let in genuine trump supporters so they could blame Trump for inciting it.
The issue with the democrats claims against Trump is that Trump had 20mins left of his speech when Antifa pushed forward and entered Capitol hill, those that were present watching Trumps speech would have actually turned up 30mins late had they walked the short journey following the speech they claimed incited the rioting ..

Just a few facts the media fails to tell you.

One of the ring leaders has already been arrested and charged as he filmed the whole event and stupidly incriminated himself, they found he used Twitter and Facebook to pre organise the attack.

He is a self confessed far left activist, he and several other arrests are of people inciting the events all with a history with either Antifa, BLM or both... funny I never saw any of this on our news yet they still peddle Trump as the inciter regardless that has since been shoYou need some sort of proff for all these assertations DW of maybe a link or two.

It wouldnt surprise me tbh.
The far left did everything possible to undermine Trumps presidency from the outset.
Many of these people were involved in the media and there was definitely some truth in the " fake news " claims. I honestly don't think Trump covered himself in glory post election result but I think it will be difficult to make the charge of incitement stick.

Joking aside, the ring leaders who pushed forward and breached Capitol Hill were Antifa and BLM activists, many of the arrests by FBI have identified these people and found evidence of pre arranged attack to stage it all and make it look like trump supporters, there is also supporting video evidence that security opened the side doors and let in genuine trump supporters so they could blame Trump for inciting it.
The issue with the democrats claims against Trump is that Trump had 20mins left of his speech when Antifa pushed forward and entered Capitol hill, those that were present watching Trumps speech would have actually turned up 30mins late had they walked the short journey following the speech they claimed incited the rioting ..

Just a few facts the media fails to tell you.

One of the ring leaders has already been arrested and charged as he filmed the whole event and stupidly incriminated himself, they found he used Twitter and Facebook to pre organise the attack.

He is a self confessed far left activist, he and several other arrests are of people inciting the events all with a history with either Antifa, BLM or both... funny I never saw any of this on our news yet they still peddle Trump as the inciter regardless that has since been shown not to be the case.

You need to show some proof for these assertions DW, or a link or two. I'm keeping an open mind on this but in all honesty everything I've seen shows stupid right wing mainly Qanon idiots at the certre. I saw the original live streams and every one that had been identified on social media since was a Trump supporting idiot, including some legislators.

 

[Midwest]

Think we should start a separate thread; I only saw examples of extreme right inside the Capitol.

 

[telectrix]

Trump was an arsehole, but to be fair, he was not responsible for far leftie snowflakes rioting. he was just used as an excuse.

 

[andyb]

Trump was an arsehole, but to be fair, he was not responsible for far leftie snowflakes rioting. he was just used as an excuse.

How on earth were these 'far left snowflakes'? Whatever one of them is.
These were Trump supporters, that in itself does not make him responsible, but you need to face up to facts Tell.

 

[Midwest]

Trump was an arsehole, but to be fair, he was not responsible for far leftie snowflakes rioting. he was just used as an excuse.

As far as I’m aware, the Confederate Flag, is not normally associated with the far left?

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd1e00ek4ebabms.cloudfront.net%2Fproduction%2F8b6c4509-30f1-492e-bc7d-2486600564e7.jpg?fit=scale-down&source=next&width=700

 

[FatAlan]

Joking aside, the ring leaders who pushed forward and breached Capitol Hill were Antifa and BLM activists, many of the arrests by FBI have identified these people and found evidence of pre arranged attack to stage it all and make it look like trump supporters, there is also supporting video evidence that security opened the side doors and let in genuine trump supporters so they could blame Trump for inciting it.
The issue with the democrats claims against Trump is that Trump had 20mins left of his speech when Antifa pushed forward and entered Capitol hill, those that were present watching Trumps speech would have actually turned up 30mins late had they walked the short journey following the speech they claimed incited the rioting ..

Just a few facts the media fails to tell you.

One of the ring leaders has already been arrested and charged as he filmed the whole event and stupidly incriminated himself, they found he used Twitter and Facebook to pre organise the attack.

He is a self confessed far left activist, he and several other arrests are of people inciting the events all with a history with either Antifa, BLM or both... funny I never saw any of this on our news yet they still peddle Trump as the inciter regardless that has since been shown not to be the case.

Wow, where did you get that from? One thing is for sure, we are in very dangerous times the way news gets out and is twisted. Trumps main fault is that he split the country the same way the Tories have here. So long as there’s no chance of him being re-elected then I’ll be happy. Out of interest, how much of this is on Facebook and Parler?

 

[littlespark]

No, but it is associated with a couple of moonshine smuggling cousins from Hazard County.

 

[Midwest]

No, but it is associated with a couple of moonshine smuggling cousins from Hazard County.

Along with ‘Some good ole boys’.

 

[electric al]

Wow, where did you get that from? One thing is for sure, we are in very dangerous times the way news gets out and is twisted. Trumps main fault is that he split the country the same way the Tories have here. So long as there’s no chance of him being re-elected then I’ll be happy. Out of interest, how much of this is on Facebook and Parler?

How have the Tories split the country here ? As I recall the red wall was demolished

 

[andyb]

Wow, where did you get that from? One thing is for sure, we are in very dangerous times the way news gets out and is twisted. Trumps main fault is that he split the country the same way the Tories have here. So long as there’s no chance of him being re-elected then I’ll be happy. Out of interest, how much of this is on Facebook and Parler?

Trump never split the country Alan, he's a symptom and not the cause. All be it a very nasty one.

 

[Darkwood]

Trump was an arsehole, but to be fair, he was not responsible for far leftie snowflakes rioting. he was just used as an excuse.

The problem with Trump is he should never have got in, the system was rigged to help the Dem's but so popular was Trump it simply wasn't enough, it sent shockwaves across the globe because the Clinton's, Obama etc and the biden had yrs of corruption they knew he would find, they enlisted their buddies in the CIA to try help take Trump down with the help if a false flag Russia collusion which also acted to misdirect the public away from the Hillary scandal.
Trump wasn't a politician so he spoke what he thought which wasn't always good for him but one thing he did do and why he has such a following, he rejuvenated the US economy and broke several economic records as well as remove the troops from pointless warzones and carried out his pre election promises.

I had a full list of Trump's achievements from the official White House site but since Biden has got in they have deleted nearly everything about trump on the site so I will need to do some deep searching to find a copy.
The list is many pages long and hardly any of it was ever mentioned on mainstream media as it did not fit the narrative, if you believe Trump was/is an A-hole it was more than likely the media narrative and constant attack that gave you that image, in 4 yrs the BBC has never done any reviews of Trump that are positive and that is what we call bias given he statistically was better than Obama on several key areas.

PS - one of Trumps exit gifts to the world was pushing through CIA and FBI files by declassifying them and letting the public decide, in these files is some damning evidence of many of Trump's opposition and plenty of evidence of the now presidents corrupt dealings with other nations like Ukraine, Russia, China when he was Vice President. There has been an impeachment case filed against Biden for this only the other day but again, the media won't tell you this because it doesn't fit the narrative they have pushed for 4 yrs.

 

[loz2754]

How can the "leader of the free world" be just a symptom???