Brightest GU10 LED - or maybe something else ?

[Viktor]

Hi All,

I'm not an electrician but trying to research the following issue for our lighting needs :

I am replacing GU10 halogen lights with LED spotlight but have found the following problem :

I don't want to save electricity I want a much brighter living room/kitchen.

In theory since all the sockets rated 40watts I think I could get a 40 watt LED bulb that would be multiples brighter but so far the best I've found is only 9 watts and 850 lumens.

So the questions is if there's any brighter GU10 bulb out there? In theory a 27 watts LED could be around 2550 Lumen but I can't find anything online.


Floorstanding lights have this amazing 4000 lumen bulb, 3 of those would be great for our space but they look terrible/don't fit the style of the rooms and of course I couldn't put any of those in the middle of the kitchen.



Any comments, suggestions or ideas are welcome.


Thanks,
Viktor

 

[Octopus]

No I'm not joking - I have only 6 GU10 sockets in a large kitchen-living room space - it's very long and room, about 13 meters that is about 4.5 - 5 meters wide in one and and narrows down to zero with a curved wall on the outer side.

In this space the 6 x GU10 halogens worth about zero so i'm replacing them normal LEDs but they're still pretty dim to my taste.

if there's any other solution that solves my problem ?

To put it simply you don't have enough downlights.

Rule of thumb, 800mm off the walls and no more than 1.4 meters apart.

You have 2 options:

1. Add more downlights

2. Use plugged in lights too

 

[Octopus]

^^ option 3: change downlights to pendent lights, then you can fit brighter lamps AND the light will be greater!

 

[Stspark]

-Replace existing lights with larger E27 'commercial' type downlights. Then use E27 LED corn lamps.

-Try GU10 to E27 adaptors. Then use E27 LED corn lamps. Although the lamps will stick out of the current downlights.

 

[Midwest]

The other thing to consider is beam angle, e.g. a 60' beam angle will provide more light directly below it, than a 120' one of the same lumen output. The 120' one would provide more overall light, but might not be bright enough for you, sat underneath to read a book for example.

You could consider having some of these installed, to replace your existing down lights. The manufacturer may be able to advice you, on the lighting style you are trying to achieve?

FGLED10 – The High Output Fire-Rated LED Downlight | JCC Lighting - http://www.jcc.co.uk/fgled10/

Edit, as Murdoch says, your existing layout may restrict your desired lighting levels

 

[Midwest]

PS, just thought, some of the higher output GU10 LED replacements are slightly longer, and may protrude from your existing fitting.

 

[Viktor]

That's fine, that wouldn't bother me at all, I just need more light.

 

[Andy78]

As others have said, there are nowhere near enough downlights for that space. Any GU10 you fit will still be disappointing with your requirements and expectations for an ultra bright room.
You should add more downlights or change the lighting layout completely.

 

[telectrix]

you could fit 20watt downlighters, but you'd need larger holes. approx 5" diameter.

 

[The Ghost]

You might consider LED panels that can be ceiling mounted and give the kind of lumens you are looking for. There is also a mini highbay light that is very bright.

 

[HandySparks]

Is this a rented property?

 

[Viktor]

Yes, I'm renting it, otherwise I'd have a completely different lighting, I'm not keen about spotlights at all.

 

[HandySparks]

Yes, I'm renting it, otherwise I'd have a completely different lighting, I'm not keen about spotlights at all.

Then surface mounted LED panels might do the job (as Vortigern says), and fairly easy to re-instate the original lights if required, with minimal re-decoration. But get an electrician in to do the job properly. Maybe talk to your landlord about the problem.

 

[static zap]

......... 6000k colour is a blueish daylight and doesn’t suit a lot of places.
....

Unless you want to highlight your blue blinds when they are shut !

( long fluorescent tubes may not have been cool - but suited many larger rooms )

 

[Midwest]

I've just re-read the OP's #9 about room dimensions. I'll get my coat

 

[HandySparks]

I've just re-read the OP's #9 about room dimensions. I'll get my coat

Yes. Six GU10 downlights in a 13m long room is pretty useless.