building inspector not happy!!

[HappyHippyDad]

Afternoon all..

I have recently been asked if I would sign off a new installation (large new build house) that I had not installed, I said 'no' and explained that I could supply an EICR. Even after a brief look around I could see a number of problems.

The building Inspector has said that he is not happy with an EICR and is going to 'have a think' about what to suggest.

Being new to this industry I wondered what you guys do when this situation arises? I.e new build where the electrician has walked out for whatever reason so the work cannot be supplied with a EIC and the Inspector is not happy with an EICR from a third party?

Cheers..

 

[Knobhead]

Beats me why HHD even looked at the job in the first place.

A simple "get stuffed" solves the problem.

 

[ian.settle1]

We don't know the full story

It could be that this developer has been getting the builder etc to do the electrical work without a spark being involved except to sign it off.

Now the BC have had enough of ot and now making it an issue over numerous EICR being supplied for work to be signed off.

 

[colshaws]

I have a similar situation ongoing at present. Its a new build and the electrician has 90% completed the job and has had a breakdown , I have been asked to finish the job and issue a cert so I spoke to BC and was told they will not accept an EICR but if I was to replace the brand new cu and issue an EIC for the board change then that would be fine.

 

[baldsparkies]

Its the building inspectors call. An EICR can back that call up. But signing off is deffo down to the inspector on this one. Not your install so stay away from that side of things.

 

[Rockingit]

My local BC have categorically stated as a matter of policy that they do not accept EICRs for new builds, they will only accept an EIC (because that's what the regs say). Not sure where exactly that would leave the OP down here!!

 

[moospark]

Beats me why HHD even looked at the job in the first place.

A simple "get stuffed" solves the problem.

Nails it for me, although "I'm busy" is more my tack.

 

[PEG]

My local BC have categorically stated as a matter of policy that they do not accept EICRs for new builds, they will only accept an EIC (because that's what the regs say). Not sure where exactly that would leave the OP down here!!

I gather they ALL have this as "a policy",but due to the sheer number of these eventualities,a way round is usually found. If this wasn't true,there would be less completion certs,less sales and less progression. Think of it like the signs you see in shops that state "We always prosecute shoplifters"....well,they don't. I have seen and dealt with these "cast in stone" scenarios from cavity sizes,window spec and many other aspects of build regulation. Remember,the BC inspectors oversee the minimum required codes,which does not mean you cannot challenge those with better specification. Also,BC inspectors are only human,and i have found them (mostly),to be knowledgeable and minded,if they possibly can,to assist. I was chatting to one such fellow and he was relating some of the sights he's come across which would make you wince,including an entire side addition built to DPC with not 2 bricks laid to a bond (think 5 year old with building blocks...) marvellous:troll:

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Do yourself a favour and walk (run) away.
If you get involved with a "well off" developer at this stage in your career you will eventually be sucked in ££ and blackened. Think dance with the devil/playing with fire.

Boydy

Not a chance Boydy, I'd never be able to look my father in the eye again if I did that! It may sound a bit unlikely but I'm more interested in doing a good job than the bucks.

Beats me why HHD even looked at the job in the first place.

A simple "get stuffed" solves the problem.

It wasn't quite as simple as that Tony. The 'third' electrician called in was a friend of mine who is an Industrial electrican and didn't have a great understanding of the paperwork/regs, he asked me over for advice and said can I sign it off. I said 'No', but I could do an EICR. Theres no harm in me doing an EICR and I was all set to get started when the Inspector said he's going to 'think about it' as he wasn't happy with an EICR.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing what the Inspector says!

 

[Knobhead]

We industrial electricians get blamed for everything. May as well add this to the list.

 

[Rockingit]

I gather they ALL have this as "a policy",but due to the sheer number of these eventualities,a way round is usually found. If this wasn't true,there would be less completion certs,less sales and less progression. Think of it like the signs you see in shops that state "We always prosecute shoplifters"....well,they don't. I have seen and dealt with these "cast in stone" scenarios from cavity sizes,window spec and many other aspects of build regulation. Remember,the BC inspectors oversee the minimum required codes,which does not mean you cannot challenge those with better specification. Also,BC inspectors are only human,and i have found them (mostly),to be knowledgeable and minded,if they possibly can,to assist. I was chatting to one such fellow and he was relating some of the sights he's come across which would make you wince,including an entire side addition built to DPC with not 2 bricks laid to a bond (think 5 year old with building blocks...) marvellous:troll:

My own local guy down here is utterly, absolutely, 100% 'by the book'. I'll have to ask him next time I see him what he'd do in that situation!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Afternoon all..

I have recently been asked if I would sign off a new installation (large new build house) that I had not installed, I said 'no' and explained that I could supply an EICR. Even after a brief look around I could see a number of problems.

The building Inspector has said that he is not happy with an EICR and is going to 'have a think' about what to suggest.

Being new to this industry I wondered what you guys do when this situation arises? I.e new build where the electrician has walked out for whatever reason so the work cannot be supplied with a EIC and the Inspector is not happy with an EICR from a third party?

Cheers..

LOL...

heard it all now....

 

[benji]

could hippyhappy say to client the only way i could sign it off is to remove all accessories lift floor boards in every room test & trace every circuit & rectify anything that is wrong ,could take a full week depending on whats found lacking tell them your daily price and an upfront payment all detailed in writing and signed for

 

[GLENNSPARK]

could hippyhappy say to client the only way i could sign it off is to remove all accessories lift floor boards in every room test & trace every circuit & rectify anything that is wrong ,could take a full week depending on whats found lacking tell them your daily price and an upfront payment all detailed in writing and signed for

if you dont get the joke then dont make the quote

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Beats me why HHD even looked at the job in the first place.

A simple "get stuffed" solves the problem.

still trying to work it out are we Tony?

 

[Geordie Spark]

if you dont get the joke then dont make the quote

..... and, if you can't take a joke marriage may not be for you.