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Hi All,
Wonder if anyone could throw some light on this one (forgive the pun)-

Was called out to sort problem with landing light which blows the bulb when switched on.. mcbs not tripping and lighting is not on an rcd protection.
visited and looked at switches, both 2-way 2 gang coupled with the hall switches (which work fine) - nothing obvious there altho I noticed each wire had a voltage indication using a probe. Also no earthing at the switches - it is an old house with some of the cabling in rubber sheath.
Looked at the ceiling rose - feed in, another loop out both in pvc and the switch wire in the rubber. closer inspection reveraled the wire insulation on the switch wires had gone brittle and cracked off, with bare wires for about 50mm. aha, problem found thinks I and promptly repaired the wiring and fitted a new rose and 2-way landing switch for good measure - however, I was still getting a "live" indication on the switch wires; upon measuring it was 22 volts to earth with no discernable difference with switching .
Client was quite happy for me to disconnect the 2 way wiring and just use the landing switch for the landing light which all works well..
Question 1 - why was bulb blowing? my understanding is that overvoltage will blow the bulb, but 230 + 22v would this be a possibility?
Question 2 - where was the 22 v coming from on the 2-way wiring, both ends of each wire was disconnected!!
The Zs measured 18ohms at the rose but couldnt determine what earthing type it was as the earth wire came up separately from under the floor, presume either tns or tt. also the whole lighting seemed to be on the one circuit, even tho there were 2 other 6A mcbs.
 
As I say, the measured 22v was between the ends of 2 of the disconnected 2 way switch wires and earth (ceiling rose earth, which was giving 230v to phase, 0v to neutral as one would expect) - in other words measured at the ends of (in theory) a piece of wire!!
altho as I also alluded to, there must be some sort of connection between the 2 ends as the landing end is rubber sheath and the hall end pvc, so altho not impossible, there should be no need for earths or neutrals around the sw wires at all?
Theres no earth wires at all in the switch boxes.
I did strongly recommend a rewire due to the age of the lighting wiring which the customer agreed was probably a good idea.. I left it with her..
 
22v will almost certainly be induced voltage - have seen it as high as 50v and able to trigger an energy saver! Caused by the run of the strappers in close proximity to themselves and others. Fit a snubber to get rid of it.

As for what is making the lamp blow - either a really naff connection somewhere that's causing arcing (probably on the neutral) or cheap lamp to start with! Lamps will operate happily in excess of 245v if all the other boxes are ticked.
 
22v will almost certainly be induced voltage - have seen it as high as 50v and able to trigger an energy saver! Caused by the run of the strappers in close proximity to themselves and others. Fit a snubber to get rid of it.

As for what is making the lamp blow - either a really naff connection somewhere that's causing arcing (probably on the neutral) or cheap lamp to start with! Lamps will operate happily in excess of 245v if all the other boxes are ticked.

50v! that is surprising - had no idea this could be so high..
I've come across the term "snubber" before but could you elucidate please? (showing my youthful ignorance now..)
many thanks for your useful input.
 
Have had same/similar event today. While doing pre-install tests on a lighting circuit picked up 50v between cpc and switched live...at two-way switching. Bungalow with almost pointless two-way switching. 2gang 2way at each end of short corridor/passageway operating luminaires about 3 to 4 metres apart. Hoping snubbers wii sort this out.
 
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