Cable in proximity to gas pipe

[Bright-spark]

BS 6891:2005 requires that electrical equipment be seperated from gas pipes by a minimum of 150mm and electrical cables by seperated from gas pipes by a minimum of 25mm.

Looks like the plumber knows more than you this time round.

By the way forgot to say the seperation distance does not apply to protective bonding cables.

 

[saveloy]

BS 6891:2005 requires that electrical equipment be seperated from gas pipes by a minimum of 150mm and electrical cables by seperated from gas pipes by a minimum of 25mm.

Looks like the plumber knows more than you this time round.

By the way forgot to say the seperation distance does not apply to protective bonding cables.

MMM very interesting. Can I ask what BS 6891:2005 refers to?

 

[clinger]

Check out p18 of the new on-site guide!! Mine came through yesterday

 

[sparkyork]

ditto just seen it now as well!!

 

[saveloy]

ditto just seen it now as well!!

Ahh please spill the beans. still waiting for my on site guide

 

[sparkyork]

Ahh please spill the beans. still waiting for my on site guide

gas installation pipes must be spaced:
a) at least 150 mm away from electricity meters, controls, electrical switches or sockets, dis boards or con units
b) AT LEAST 25mm from electricity cables

seperation of at least 25mm to be provided for domestic pipework up to 35mm. for pipework over 35mm then 50mm seperation is required. the seperation distance can be reduced if the gas pipe is pvc wrapped or a pane of insulating material is interposed

 

[saveloy]

gas installation pipes must be spaced:
a) at least 150 mm away from electricity meters, controls, electrical switches or sockets, dis boards or con units
b) AT LEAST 25mm from electricity cables

seperation of at least 25mm to be provided for domestic pipework up to 35mm. for pipework over 35mm then 50mm seperation is required. the seperation distance can be reduced if the gas pipe is pvc wrapped or a pane of insulating material is interposed

Oh well looks like every property in the country is going to need remedial work carried out to rectify this then.
For crying out loud do they never get fed up with inventing rules and regs.

 

[Shakey]

gas installation pipes must be spaced:
a) at least 150 mm away from electricity meters, controls, electrical switches or sockets, dis boards or con units
b) AT LEAST 25mm from electricity cables

seperation of at least 25mm to be provided for domestic pipework up to 35mm. for pipework over 35mm then 50mm seperation is required. the seperation distance can be reduced if the gas pipe is pvc wrapped or a pane of insulating material is interposed

yes but we as sparks (even though I aint a proper one) must stand our ground as well.

I am in the middle of a rewire, and it is having gas fitted from outside(should have been Monday, but the gasman could not park directly outside the house, and so refused to do the job!!!!!).

Anyway the gas is coming in through the wall into the front room, so it works both ways, I can insist he keeps HIS pipes away from MY cables, which are already laid! First come first served and all that

And why do i think that the gas fitter will claim he has precedence and insist that i move my cables Can feel a scrap coming on..........

 

[sparkyork]

yeah there a night mare arnt they! defo agree with the 1st come 1st served thang, i hate doing a new build after a plumbers been in, spesh with these new joists with knock outs in they take up all the room.

can be reversal on this tho as well, if you get in first they may pipe up to close to your cables and not tell you, then it comes to drilling 30 downlights in a kitchen and theres pipes all over!!

 

[4x4 mark]

but you are only talking about an inch of separation and less if it is pvc wrapped, most plumbers i work with buy the pvc stuff as i think it has to be identified in houses as a gas pipe, if you cant keep more than an inch away from a pipe then something is wrong.

 

[mpfisher@hotmai]

A plumber on the last job that I was on complained that cables had been passed through the floor less than 30mm away from a gas pipe and that this was against regs, as an arc could cause a fire if there was a gas leak. I had not heard of this reg before, and also thought that if the cable and gas pipe were to have faults, 30mm would not make any difference to the potential risk of fire. Can anyone enlighten me perhaps?

Just got my copy of the new OSG today and page 18

Gas installation pipes must be spaced

a. at least 150mm away from electricity meters, controls, electrical switches or sockets, dbs or consumer units.

b. at least 25mm away from electricity cables.

i dont make the rules!!!!!

Mark

 

[Shakey]

Just got my copy of the new OSG today and page 18

Gas installation pipes must be spaced

a. at least 150mm away from electricity meters, controls, electrical switches or sockets, dbs or consumer units.

b. at least 25mm away from electricity cables.

i dont make the rules!!!!!

Mark

we do gas assessments, so i showed it to one my gas tutors/assessors

"oh yeah, thats been in for donkeys that has"

So how many sparks here actually knew about this?

Whats the point of having rules that affect 2 trades and only telling one of them?

dont the 'powers that be talk to each other?'

(that was a rhetorical question by the way)

 

[andy8758]

Excerpt from 18th Wiring Regs (currently being produced apparently):

5.3.4 No electrical cable is to be situated within 150mm of a toilet installation.
5.3.4.1 All electrical cables used for toilet extractor fans must be double insulated.

Well, gas is explosive isn't it?

 

[saveloy]

Excerpt from 18th Wiring Regs (currently being produced apparently):

5.3.4 No electrical cable is to be situated within 150mm of a toilet installation.
5.3.4.1 All electrical cables used for toilet extractor fans must be double insulated.

Well, gas is explosive isn't it?

Hahaha.

Serious question. What about toilet installations that use a macerator.
$0dding cable goes right into the $h!t mashin pump. Can't get closer than that!!

Maybe they'll invent a new one with a hand operated masher/pump

 

[wilson]

osg says keep meters and control gear 150mm from gas pipe and cables at least 25mm may be this plumber bin on the one day course