cables resting on suspended ceiling

[R4BOE]

hi all


which code PIR / EICR would you advise for cables sitting on a suspened metal grid ceiling the generally the type installed in offices

any input appreciated

 

[PC Electrics]

see this all the time. Must admit I've never even thought it might be wrong.

 

[R4BOE]

yeah and this is in a development 5 years old as well and the full install is like this nightmare and the remedials will probably be left for us to sort out !!

 

[Spudnik]

I suppose there is always a chance that a cable could get snagged etc.

A 4 at best.

 

[kamkam]

Didn't think there was a code 4 any more just C1,C2 & C3? correct me if I'm wrong

 

[jjnr78]

Is the suspended ceiling metallic? there would a requirement for earthing. Generally though, cables need to be clipped, strapped to tray, enclosed in conduit/ trunking etc to prevent strain amoungst other things. If its a metal grid, no earth, cables strewn everyone, crossing cables of other voltages etc, I wouold amount that to a code 2. getting over its a pain. i have used the plastic plugs which you knock into the ceiling and they take a tie wrap.

 

[malcolmsanford]

Is the suspended ceiling metallic? there would a requirement for earthing. Generally though, cables need to be clipped, strapped to tray, enclosed in conduit/ trunking etc to prevent strain amoungst other things. If its a metal grid, no earth, cables strewn everyone, crossing cables of other voltages etc, I wouold amount that to a code 2. getting over its a pain. i have used the plastic plugs which you knock into the ceiling and they take a tie wrap.

What are we earthing here?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Not really acceptable, but happens all the time.
There is a potential for cables to become snagged on the edges of the metal grid, and a very good chance that the ceiling will become overloaded if too many cables are layed on it.
I recall on one job someone being left up a ladder halfway through the ceiling attempting to hold up half the ceiling while myself and a couple of collegues fell about laughing taking the mick, as you do.

 

[Guest123]

It's rough as badgers for sure.

IMO you'd be looking at reg group 522.8 & also 510.3 possibly.

 

[Marvo]

Where I am it's against the building regs as well as the electrical reg.

 

[i=p/u]

isit a judgment to what happens up above ceiling... like no one should be up there so should be ok... just guessing here but doesnt sound correct installation method to me

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Stick the tiles back up......what cables:lol:

 

[R4BOE]

so guys all know its wrong but whats you thoughts on the relevant code to give the defect

cheers

 

[R4BOE]

cables bunshed and grouped with fire alarm cables and television cables which code would you advise for this is on a peroidic done at the end of last year
???? see pic below

 

[jamie-spark]

Looks an absolute shambles .:83: