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Oh well.I see that mindless cretin is spouting his crap again,we,re all in it together yeah right.We,re all in a pit of deep brown stuff and him and his cronies are on the bank laughing at us.Only bright spot is this law about defending your home from intruders,so it,s windows open mantraps set and gun at the ready.Cant afford to go out so it,s time to make my own amusement.lol
 
Oh well.I see that mindless cretin is spouting his crap again,we,re all in it together yeah right.We,re all in a pit of deep brown stuff and him and his cronies are on the bank laughing at us.Only bright spot is this law about defending your home from intruders,so it,s windows open mantraps set and gun at the ready.Cant afford to go out so it,s time to make my own amusement.lol


id wait for the tory voter grief your gonna get mate,its all labours and the unions fault you know..:biggrin:
 
The funny thing is they haven't actually changed the law about defending yourself from intruders, reasonable force has always been allowed. Camoron like all politicians just talks crap that he thinks people want to hear.
 
The funny thing is they haven't actually changed the law about defending yourself from intruders, reasonable force has always been allowed. Camoron like all politicians just talks crap that he thinks people want to hear.

its the word reasonable thats always been the issue,plenty of innocent homeowners have been charged with unreasonable,personally if i ever find one in my home,he aint walking out thats for sure..and thats reasonable imo..
 
Oh well.I see that mindless cretin is spouting his crap again,we,re all in it together yeah right.We,re all in a pit of deep brown stuff and him and his cronies are on the bank laughing at us.Only bright spot is this law about defending your home from intruders,so it,s windows open mantraps set and gun at the ready.Cant afford to go out so it,s time to make my own amusement.lol
Yeah yeah, "rich get richer, poor get poorer", "the greedy tory toffs want to keep all the money for themselves", "out of touch with reality" etc.
Why not just have done with it and put some thieving chav off the street in charge of the country? They might know chuff all about running the country or how other people live, but they know how the lowest social class live, and of course "they couldn't do any worse than this lot could they, ha ha."
Maybe everyone in the country could aspire to be a chav rather than a toff, then we could all go on benefits and live for free instead of having to pay for stuff.
Oh let's not forget MPs expenses. Yeah. That's what you get when... Politics... Yeah.
 
Yeah yeah, "rich get richer, poor get poorer", "the greedy tory toffs want to keep all the money for themselves", "out of touch with reality" etc.
Why not just have done with it and put some thieving chav off the street in charge of the country? They might know chuff all about running the country or how other people live, but they know how the lowest social class live, and of course "they couldn't do any worse than this lot could they, ha ha."
Maybe everyone in the country could aspire to be a chav rather than a toff, then we could all go on benefits and live for free instead of having to pay for stuff.
Oh let's not forget MPs expenses. Yeah. That's what you get when... Politics... Yeah.


what is the lowest class,adam,..the thing with the tories is they cant tell the difference between the owt for nowt and the working class man who cant find a job because of whatever,is everyone on benefits a chav or are they out of work through no fault of their own due to the greed of many a corporation..the greed of this government,the greed of the shareholders who must be fed at the expence of the working man,are you a working man adam or a ceo,
 
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The blanket story is deffo working as he's trying diffuse the EU referendum with the majority of people now wanting to have their say IN or OUT but he's got his hands tied by Europe and he knows what happened to Thatcher will happen to him too in that he'd be forced out of office so he has to come up with a vote that wont give us the choice we have been promised but instead will ask to intergrate fully or sit on the side lines pretty much as we are now and have them denote our laws, human rights etc as well as still bleeding us dry, so his referendum would consist of a 'yes' vote or a 'yes yes' vote which wouldn't really change our position much as he know the majority wont want to get more involved with the failing EU system.
 
One thing that particularly worried me was the idea of employee shareholdings whereby in exchange for you giving up a load of rights which have been fought for for many years your employer can (whoopdebloodydo) give you ÂŁ2000 of shares. How long will it then be before a prospective employee is given the Hobson's choice of sign away your rights or no job.
The tories supposedly don't like the human rights laws but I can remember when they didn't like the HASWA and were going to repeal huge parts of that. If that shares for rights goes through it's the thin end of the wedge.
 
what is the lowest class,adam,..the thing with the tories is they cant tell the difference between the owt for nowt and the working class man who cant find a job because of whatever,is everyone on benefits a chav or are they out of work through no fault of their own due to the greed of many a corporation..the greed of this government,the greed of the shareholders who must be fed at the expence of the working man,are you a working man adam or a ceo,
By 'the lowest class' I mean this new 'non-working class' who seem to think getting a job and earning your money is an option - a legitimate alternative to be to 'not work' and sit around living off those who do.
Jobcentre staff seem to class this 'non-working class' as anyone who walks in through the door of the jobcentre, but the government can easily see at a glance who has never worked, who has been out of work for more than a couple of years, or these NEETS we hear so much about.
Labour's solution to this seemed to be to move many of them onto long term incapacity benefit, which may have made the figures look a bit better but did nothing to address the problem, in fact it made it worse because there was no incentive to look for work, only an incentive to breed for the extra benefits. You might say they 'gave up' on these people.

Whether you like it or not, corporations provide a lot of jobs for 'normal' people like you and me. Yes the shareholders at the company I work for are probably stinking rich, but I don't begrudge them, because without them I wouldn't have a job. Similarly our customers are stinking rich and again, without them I wouldn't have a job.
Of course I would love to have that kind of money, which is something to aspire to.

Simply taxing the rich has been tried before - these are the people who have the means to up sticks and relocate to somewhere with lower taxes. If this means also relocating their business to save a few quid then I doubt they would lose much sleep over it, although it will mean transferring jobs out of the UK.
 
The blanket story is deffo working as he's trying diffuse the EU referendum with the majority of people now wanting to have their say IN or OUT but he's got his hands tied by Europe and he knows what happened to Thatcher will happen to him too in that he'd be forced out of office so he has to come up with a vote that wont give us the choice we have been promised but instead will ask to intergrate fully or sit on the side lines pretty much as we are now and have them denote our laws, human rights etc as well as still bleeding us dry, so his referendum would consist of a 'yes' vote or a 'yes yes' vote which wouldn't really change our position much as he know the majority wont want to get more involved with the failing EU system.
I think that would be playing a dangerous game - if Cameron doesn't offer us an 'in/out' referendum then the next general election would serve as one, with the 'out' option being UKIP. As you say, there aren't many in favour of propping up the EU so vowing to stay put on the matter would be a vote-loser.
 
To be honest, im impartial.....but, anyone, and i mean anyone is better than putting milliband in power. He looks like wallace from wallace and grommit.....and if given the chance of PM he'd probably act like him.

Better off not voting, theres no point, politicans will be politicans. No matter what party they're from, they've pretty much all got the compulsive liar background (exceptions being john prescott, vince cable and boris johnson)

Like i said, best off not wasting your time and voting next time round..............wonder what would happen if absolutley everyone in the country refused to vote ha!
 
to be honest, im impartial.....but, anyone, and i mean anyone is better than putting milliband in power. He looks like wallace from wallace and grommit.....and if given the chance of pm he'd probably act like him.

Better off not voting, theres no point, politicans will be politicans. No matter what party they're from, they've pretty much all got the compulsive liar background (exceptions being john prescott, vince cable and boris johnson)

like i said, best off not wasting your time and voting next time round..............wonder what would happen if absolutley everyone in the country refused to vote ha!
vote non of the above!
 
The real problem is that 90% of the developed world has been living off cheap credit and the UK, like the USA has a terrible balance of payments due to all the cheap imports. Gordon Brown (bless him) used to say that by buying cheap imports that we were importing "low inflation".

For me why on earth is the Chinese currency "pegged" to the US dollar?? The Chinese have so much money their currency should appreciate in value, making all their exports more expensive - and that we the west might have a fighting chance to manufacture again.

Bottom line is that NONE of the Politicians have any answers, nor have ANY of them worked in the real world.

As far as I'm concerned the UK needs to be less friendly to those who flood here, and the UK workers allowed to sit at home and do little or nothing for money need to get out and do some work. UK plc is spending too much. International companies know how to organise their finances to minimise the taxes they pay and there aren't enough rich to bridge the gap.

Like family or company finances we need to spend less and/or tax more - neither is particularly palletable but essential.

As for Government/Councils making savings - when did you last see turkeys voting for Christmas?
 

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