Can anyone help me with my understand of circuitry

[Richard Burns]

These are some diagrams that may help with how lighting is normally wired.
You have the descriptions above.

This is some methods of switching lighting:

 

[Knobhead]

The problem with twin brown is which is which. L and S/L. you have to bell out. more time wasted.

30 year since I did my last domestic install, the then red red had a marker stripe on one core. Is it that difficult to bell out? With switch wires it doesn’t make any difference?

 

[telectrix]

maybe not, but i have always followed the practice of L into C and S/L into L1 on switches.

 

[Billythekid]

This is a bit OTT - If you open a switch and become confused by a brown sleeved conductor then you shouldn't be opening the switch in the first place!
I remember (back in the old colour days) an older guy I worked with would never sleeve R/Y/B on 2 ways - his argument was that they were already live coloured conductors.

Though one benefit with using Brown/Brown on switch drops is it makes id at light easy

A particular favourite of mine, especially when they used blue as a neutral. I've lost count how many times that a 2 way switch has been used incorrectly, then some poor sod has replaced it using "standard" wiring method - Pop!!

 

[7029 dave]

Don't you guys in the UK use brown/brown T+E for the switch drops? (If wiring using the 3plate method)

If using T+E, we use brown / brown T+E,,its made in the UK

Yes we used twin red back in the day for spec jobs on switch drops, but sleeving does the job.

 

[GMES]

Don't they also need a BULB?!

Not unless your a gardener! bulbs grow lamps blow.........................sorry mate couldn't resist

 

[Adam W]

The problem with twin brown is which is which. L and S/L. you have to bell out. more time wasted.

Plus it's considerably more expensive, and an extra roll of cable you have to carry around.
You don't use 3x brown + earth for 2 way lighting, so why use 2x brown for single way?

 

[GMES]

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Marvo what is involved in getting in to the trainee forum to offer support to them, I have sent you a pm.

 

[longboat]

The regs here in Ireland say that the conductor must be the correct colour for its entire length. Silly reg really because as you've said, its easy to put a bit of sleeving on it.

Thats Irish alright.

 

[mayfair]

All singles here so brown or black live feed, grey to lamp......simples

grey strapers btw

 

[Geordie Spark]

Marvo what is involved in getting in to the trainee forum to offer support to them, I have sent you a pm.

You have to undergo the Initiation Ceremony which involves a tub of grease. ...........

After that, you have to give a funny handshake while standing on one leg with you trouser legs rolled up.

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[mayfair]

Bet tidy boiler enjoyed that

You have to undergo the Initiation Ceremony which involves a tub of grease. ...........

After that, you have to give a funny handshake while standing on one leg with you trouser legs rolled up.

Then you do the Hokey Cokey and shake it all about and you're in!!

 

[ipf]

Not unless your a gardener! bulbs grow lamps blow.........................sorry mate couldn't resist

True...glow, even

 

[Geordie Spark]

I may look younger, I'm still knackered!

At least I’ve still got a full head of hair! (Sort of.) SWMBO is sorting the mess the barber butcher made of it when she finally wakes up. (I’ll be asleep by then!)



Why won't the forum do strikethough in text?

You're on manoeuvres now bonny lad - or playing away from home if you like.

You're on Foreign Soil - where the forums are full of glitches .................


I have corrected your misspelled strikethrough - I will make no charge for this.

 

[GMES]

You have to undergo the Initiation Ceremony which involves a tub of grease. ...........

After that, you have to give a funny handshake while standing on one leg with you trouser legs rolled up.

Then you do the Hokey Cokey and shake it all about and you're in!!

I hope your not teasing me Geordie, cause that sounds like a good night