Can someone please clarify EICR rating of these downlights in terms of fire rating

[EricMark]

If a tradesman or professional strays out of there remit it can cause all sorts of problems, I had a house buyers report on my house before buying which detailed what had been found on the electrical system.

It said the consumer unit had been up-dated and the old fuse box had been left in place above the ceiling, this was incorrect, the old fuse box was still active, with a hole in the plaster board just big enough to get your hand in to change a fuse.

OK as an electrician I was not worried, but it would be easy for a home buyer to think that home buyers report included an electrical installation condition report as they had reported on the electrical installation condition.

I as an electrician am not qualified to comment on fire prevention, yes I can raise concerns like anyone else that a fire door has been replaced with a not fire resisting door, or there is a whole in the ceiling which also will not resist fire, but plain fact remains if a ceiling rose had replaced the down lights and the down light holes not filled, it would be more dangerous than having down lights in the holes, but would not attract any coding with the EICR, so why should it get a code when less dangerous?

 

[Midwest]

I have never trained as a fire preventative officer, and I don't see that are part of my remit when doing an EICR, I may put it in notes, but if the lights were removed and the originally ceiling rose fitted and holes left in ceiling would it fail an EICR, no it would not, so simply nothing to do with an EICR.

If there is a fire prevention report which picks them up then yes OK.

But as an electrician, you should be conversant with Building Regulations, and how electrical installation can have an impact on the regs, and visa versa. This includes fire safety.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

If a tradesman or professional strays out of there remit it can cause all sorts of problems, I had a house buyers report on my house before buying which detailed what had been found on the electrical system.

It said the consumer unit had been up-dated and the old fuse box had been left in place above the ceiling, this was incorrect, the old fuse box was still active, with a hole in the plaster board just big enough to get your hand in to change a fuse.

OK as an electrician I was not worried, but it would be easy for a home buyer to think that home buyers report included an electrical installation condition report as they had reported on the electrical installation condition.

I as an electrician am not qualified to comment on fire prevention, yes I can raise concerns like anyone else that a fire door has been replaced with a not fire resisting door, or there is a whole in the ceiling which also will not resist fire, but plain fact remains if a ceiling rose had replaced the down lights and the down light holes not filled, it would be more dangerous than having down lights in the holes, but would not attract any coding with the EICR, so why should it get a code when less dangerous?

We do have a responsibility to make sure we do not aid in the spread of a fire, point 5.13 on the schedule of inspections on the EICR and the entire section 527 of BS7671. What do you make of that section of BS7671 Eric? Genuine question, do you just not think it applies? if so, why not?