CCU Change on property

[Dvyj123]

When doing an eic, does anyone put limitations for existing wiring within walls and under floors and you’re not able to check them? Or what do people put down for that. Also would it be best to consider asking the customer to consider getting an eicr completed before a board change to rise any faults that there possibly could be?

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Yes, real world there is only so much of the existing installation you can check. In the 'extent of installation covered' I put 'CU change and test of existing fixed wiring'. Some cells on the schedule of circuit details get left blank if I don't have the data for them, eg L-L IR test, sometimes ref method too if I'm not 100% sure of the cable run.

A thorough test and inspect in advance of a CU change is a very good idea, there may be existing problems that your customer hasn't budgeted for. Doesn't have to be an EICR, but could be if you like.

 

[westward10]

Limitations are applicable to EICRs.

 

[davesparks]

You cannot have limitations on an EIC, you must inspect and test all parts of the work which is being certified.

You fill in the 'extent of installation covered by this certificate' box to define what exactly is being certified by that EIC.

 

[mattg4321]

I would argue that some limitations are acceptable on an EIC. For example, consumer unit change, lighting circuits with downlighters etc, then L-L IR test is always going to be a LIM in reality.

 

[littlespark]

That’s what #4 tried to say.

On an EICR, you list limitations, ie What doesnt get tested….
On an EIC, you list “extent of installation…” ie What does
And in the case of a new CU, it’s just the new CU….

Saying that, you may have performed a mini EICR just to check there was no underlying gremlins going to cause problems with RCDs etc.

If you are doing an EIC, that is an initial test of the work…. Work that you should have been part of, and you would know cable routes.

Example… you’re adding a spur or extending an rfc to a new socket right next to an existing one.
“Extent of installation” is simply the new bit of cable and socket you’ve put in. And whether rcd protection is in place for the new socket not necessarily the existing socket. (Although it’s much easier if the whole existing circuit is now rcd protected)