Ceiling lighting advice for novice

[TonyH28]

Hi all,
Found myself here as I am looking for some advice on ceiling lights and it seemed like a friendly place!!

I have a very dark kitchen with only 1 ceiling light. I really don't like the commercial spot light fixtures and would like to replace the single light with a few recessed down-lights. As the floor above is not really accessible, I intend to build a partial false ceiling from MDF, paint and attach to the existing ceiling. I figured this would be easier that chasing out the ceiling or trying to drill through joists from the underside. My question therefore is this, can I just wire up 6 recessed down-lights from this 1 set of wires for the existing light? and if so, how do I go about doing this? I guess I need to ask if I am actually allowed to do this also? The idea would be do have all the wiring/connectors in the hollow I would be creating in the false ceiling. I could make this accessible or not, depending on regulations. (for example, I could screw the false ceiling into place, paint but use caps so it's removable if need be.)

Many thanks and look forward to reading any replies. Would be a great help.

 

['mr2'gd4u]

Wago's huh? I can google that. Like connectors I guess, in a box? So I wire up the three wires to the wago box and can just come off them how ever many times I need? for 6 lights?

Yes, just run the cable from one light to the next instead of running 6 cables to the one point.

 

[TonyH28]

Yes, just run the cable from one light to the next instead of running 6 cables to the one point.

Sorry again, how do I do that? if i have 3 wires to a wago box, then 3 wires from that to the first light, where do the wires come from to the other 5 lights? I'm sorry to be so stupid on this, I can do it, just need specific instruction like you would give to a robot!!!

 

[Spoon]

just need specific instruction like you would give to a robot!!!

It's against forum rules to give step-by-step instructions out.

 

[TonyH28]

It's against forum rules to give step-by-step instructions out.

Is it? Sorry. Why?

 

['mr2'gd4u]

Connect from wago to first light, Connect a new length from first light to second light and so on.

 

['mr2'gd4u]

But I will reiterate that by the sounds of things you would be safer getting someone in.

 

[Octopus]

Connect from wago to first light, Connect a new length from first light to second light and so on.

Read post #18

 

[Octopus]

Is it? Sorry. Why?

Because this is a forum for sparks to help sparks ..... not to give away trade skills FOC to DIYers ....

 

[Spoon]

Is it? Sorry. Why?

How The DIY Area Works And The Step By Step Guide Rule - https://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/threads/how-the-diy-area-works-and-the-step-by-step-guide-rule.99209/

You should have a read of this thread as well @'mr2'gd4u

 

['mr2'gd4u]

Heh didn't know, now I do.

 

[TonyH28]

Connect from wago to first light, Connect a new length from first light to second light and so on.

Got you, thank you so much for all your help, I really do appreciate it. Any particular wire I should use? and any wago box you would recommend for the job?

I also appreciate your concern.

How The DIY Area Works And The Step By Step Guide Rule - https://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/threads/how-the-diy-area-works-and-the-step-by-step-guide-rule.99209/

You should have a read of this thread as well @'mr2'gd4u

I see, thank you for clarification. I understand. Thank you.

 

[TonyH28]

Because this is a forum for sparks to help sparks ..... not to give away trade skills FOC to DIYers ....

Okay, but personally I think that's ridiculous. You have a DIY section. What you are basically saying is we can help but not really, as you want DIY'ers to get an electrician in. I understand that from a H&S point of view, you need to be VERY careful, but I can't buy into what you said at all. Its not for sparks to sparks if you have a DIY section and all info in here is FOC, that's the point?

I really do appreciate the help that was given to me here, but if that is really the forum rules, I will search for future advice elsewhere. Thank you again to 'mr2' gd4u.

 

[Octopus]

The DIY section is for basics, not step by step for DIYers to avoid employing skilled trades people

 

[Spoon]

Okay, but personally I think that's ridiculous. You have a DIY section. What you are basically saying is we can help but not really, as you want DIY'ers to get an electrician in. I understand that from a H&S point of view, you need to be VERY careful, but I can't buy into what you said at all. Its not for sparks to sparks if you have a DIY section and all info in here is FOC, that's the point?

I really do appreciate the help that was given to me here, but if that is really the forum rules, I will search for future advice elsewhere. Thank you again to 'mr2' gd4u.

Some DIYers have good knowledge of electrics, how to wire up equipment and what wire to use. They sometimes need clarification on certain things. We can help out there.
You seem to have none of the above, so it's best to suggest you get someone in who can do the job properly and test it afterwards.
If you need step-by-step advice then it is best if you "search for future advice elsewhere." Good luck with the lights mate.

 

[MFS Electrical]

I’d frame it and board it with plasterboard MDF is probably not a good idea on a kitchen ceiling or any ceiling for that matter. Now on to the downlights nice maintenance free JB at the original lighting point above the new false ceiling and then loop to the spots. But for the price of a spark is it worth putting your family in danger by wiring it up yourself? Get a spark in, you can save dough and run the cables in but get him/her to connect it up and test it piece of mind is worth much much more than a few bob saved.