Certificate of competency

[Geoffsd]

I don't accept having to pay someone exortionate amounts of money to do a job I am perfectly capable of doing myself.

Nor do lots of others but that is the LAW.

 

[ruston]

Thankyou for your responses it is appreciated. I wasn't trying to be confrontational.
I understand that things have changed. I accept change but I don't accept having to pay someone exortionate amounts of money to do a job I am perfectly capable of doing myself.
I have downloaded the pdf file attributed to the site you gave me the link to. Thankyou. I admit I haven't read the 49 pages but will.
Again thankyou. Et bon chance.

Good , but you just need to read the section on notification to give you the gist. You should be OK , it just depends who you get , some of them are ok . Best of luck anyway. Part P misses everyone of anyway , you are not alone lol.


I see I've hit the M isted of the P.

 

[Des 56]

You are in the infancy of discovering that one way or another,whichever route you take,you now have to pay for the privelege of doing the work you were trained to do in the first instance

If that aint enough,you may yet have to face up to the scenario of someone, trained in a matter of days or weeks,overseeing and supervising your installation skills

Welcome to the UK electricians world post part p

 

[Guitarist]

Thankyou for your responses it is appreciated. I wasn't trying to be confrontational.
I understand that things have changed. I accept change but I don't accept having to pay someone exortionate amounts of money to do a job I am perfectly capable of doing myself.
I have downloaded the pdf file attributed to the site you gave me the link to. Thankyou. I admit I haven't read the 49 pages but will.
Again thankyou. Et bon chance.

I'm sure that you are more than capable of doing the work yourself, but the law has changed so that you can still do the work if you so wish, but there is an inspection fee involved (as the council do not know if you have your 17th edition qualification/public liability insurance/calibrated test gear). For the vast majority of professional electricians, it is more cost effective and easier to pay our scheme membership and undergo the yearly assessment, along with all the other expenses, than it is to get LBC out for every notifiable job.
Don't get me wrong here... I don't think the part P fiasco works anywhere near the way it is supposed to, but we are stuck with it, so we either conform or break the law. Sadly, I am law abiding (hence not rich).
If you have a look at the Elecsa website (see post #2), it explains fairly succinctly what is required to become a member of a "competent persons scheme".

 

[Guest55]

Well after 10 years in France you've missed that joyous invention known as part p.
oh dear lol , youre not gonna a like it
I'd be straight back to lovely sunny France and their much simpler electricians licencing system.

 

[oldtimer]

Why did you come back ? and you should have moved to Scotland why ? no Part Peeeeeing

 

[Guest55]

Why did you come back ? and you should have moved to Scotland why ? no Part Peeeeeing

France or Scotland ? hmm let me see , 6 month summers , monaco , world class wine £4 a bottle , hot continental totty.
Or Glasgow with rain.
:-D

 

[oldtimer]

Yep remember the auld alliance between Scotland and France a lot of our laws are the same and we were not daft enough to take on part Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[ruston]

Yep remember the auld alliance between Scotland and France a lot of our laws are the same and we were not daft enough to take on part Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Lol I can remember when last orders was Half nine.

 

[Guitarist]

Yep remember the auld alliance between Scotland and France a lot of our laws are the same and we were not daft enough to take on part Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Never mind mate. Come the vote, you can ditch us English and our crazy laws altogether

 

[oldtimer]

Naa thats a step too far

 

[Des 56]

Never mind mate. Come the vote, you can ditch us English and our crazy laws altogether

I would have no more time for the Jocks if they decide to depart leaving the Irish and Welsh to moan about the English on their own :19:

Can't there just be a vote to kick England out of the UK instead :clap:


Only joking fellas,I hope this wont stop you from continuing to post us your tax monies :drool5:

 

[rodgearing]

Well after 10 years in France you've missed that joyous invention known as part p.
oh dear lol , youre not gonna a like it
I'd be straight back to lovely sunny France and their much simpler electricians licencing system.

Yes you are right but new installations and major refurbs need to be signed off before EDF put the electrics on. Also when any and every house that is sold a 'diagnostic' is done the inspector pointing out to the house holder their electrical defiencies. A lot of our work revolved around putting these wrongs to right.
Thanks again for the help and advice.
Just a question afore I go. Why in TWE cable is the earth still a smaller diameter than the current carrying cables and why is it not sheathed? I thought they would have addressed that in their attempts at being finnicky!

 

[rodgearing]

France or Scotland ? hmm let me see , 6 month summers , monaco , world class wine £4 a bottle , hot continental totty.
Or Glasgow with rain.
:-D

Ah it does get cold in the winter -16 in the Limousin, Charente, Correze etc. Beers crap. Not every one likes wine and contrary to public believe there are a lot of fat ugly French women!

 

[Guitarist]

Just a question afore I go. Why in TWE cable is the earth still a smaller diameter than the current carrying cables and why is it not sheathed? I thought they would have addressed that in their attempts at being finnicky!

The cpc is not insulated, but it is sheathed in T&E. That is considered adequate when part of a cable.
The cpc is allowed to be smaller in fixed installation cables such as T&E because using the adiabatic equation, it is assumed that the duration of the earth fault current is so short that none of the heat energy produced in the protective conductor escapes before the protective device operates. Although not entirely accurate, it is close enough to satisfy BS7671.

Hope that helps