change the db or dont change the db

[sedgy34]

Here is one for you all!!!!
Got a landlord :sultan: ask me about rewiring a house he owns but rents out,ive been to the property to do a visual!! My oppinion the house would benefit from a rewire.The tennant has just decorated the whole of the house throughout :13: ive explained to the tennant they will benefit from a rewire but the fact they just spent alot of cash on re decorating the whole house is the stumbling block, the landlord is willing to pay me for the works but tennant not having any of it cause they would have to re decorate in areas.
(money being put first before safety)

After a debate between tennant/landlord etc Q. can you change the ditribution board so its a 17th edition DB instead of the old fuse wire board
i said yeh can do that will have a look in the exhisting distribution board and there are a couple of bad boy rubber cables sitting there.

SO THE QUESTION IS DO YOU CHANGE IT and risk loosing power cause they have broken or not change the DB
I also Aknowledge by changing the DB will improve the installation.


Thanks in advance

 

[cbw]

if its rubber its more than 30yrs!

More likely 50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dave 85]

If it was me and I saw 'a couple' of rubber cables, and the rest was PVC I'd usually insist the rubber was replaced along with a C/U upgrade but leave the other circuits as long as they were ok. I generally find most faults in a PVC wired house can be rectified without rewiring. An open ring can easily be turned into 2 radials.

Its all very well you guys going on about 'safety over cost' no matter what, but should this guy, living in rented accomodation, go and get a 2k bankloan to redecorate a flat he doesn't own that he just redecorated? Maybe he should borrow another 15k while he's there to get a brand new 'safe' car to replace his 15yr old motor, which is probably 1000 times more likely to kill him than his wiring. If I'd just borrowed 20k, with no way of paying it back, just to be in the knowledge I was 0.01% less likely to have a fatal accident, I'd prolly go and throw myself infront of a train anyway.

Live fast die young I says

 

[RISElectrical]

I fail to see how the tenants wishes are a consideration to the OP. The contract of works is with the landlord, you give him your recommendations and it's up to him to liaise with tenant and decide on the best outcome based upon your recommendations in the report. so long as your report is issued any fall out due to work not being done is down to the landlord, should the landlord insist on a rewire then it is between him and the tenant how this is made financially viable.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Here is one for you all!!!!
Got a landlord :sultan: ask me about rewiring a house he owns but rents out,ive been to the property to do a visual!! My oppinion the house would benefit from a rewire.The tennant has just decorated the whole of the house throughout :13: ive explained to the tennant they will benefit from a rewire but the fact they just spent alot of cash on re decorating the whole house is the stumbling block, the landlord is willing to pay me for the works but tennant not having any of it cause they would have to re decorate in areas.
(money being put first before safety)

After a debate between tennant/landlord etc Q. can you change the ditribution board so its a 17th edition DB instead of the old fuse wire board
i said yeh can do that will have a look in the exhisting distribution board and there are a couple of bad boy rubber cables sitting there.

SO THE QUESTION IS DO YOU CHANGE IT and risk loosing power cause they have broken or not change the DB
I also Aknowledge by changing the DB will improve the installation.


Thanks in advance

IR on all final circuits here first....before deciding what need replacing.....too many of these BS3036s are just condemned outright when in reality their still good for continued service.....as long as the IP rating hasn`t been compromised...and it will meet disconnection times n all that lot......i mean any replacement circuits here will have to comply with the edition that they were installed..(17th 1st)....which means additional protection for final circuits installed at a depth of less that 50mm without earthed mettalic covering bla bla bla....

 

[Djlelectrical]

The rubber cables are a slight worry... I agree tho how will the deco look after a fire.. Some people are crackers man

 

[Spazz]

Personally offer to do a IR test free of charge (you would of done this before doing a CU change).

IR test everything and see where that takes you.

Other option is to ask the landlord how long has the tenant got left on their contract - if its not long then cant it wait and do the whole rewire then - if its a good while (long tenancy) then you need to let the landlord deal with the tenant accordingly.

To be honest the landlord knew the tenant had just redecorated so why did they not plan to do a rewire before the tenant move in/decorate, so the landlord should pay to have the house redecorated after you finish the work (you could offer a price to do the job and put back to how it was before you touched it) - some extra cash for you then, and pleases the tenant.