charging for 5 mins return visit

[sparkymarky]

tell em to stickit 'where their pir dont shine' ....lol

 

[Paul.M]

tell em to stickit 'where their pir dont shine' ....lol

And where would that be then? Your pride in your work???

 

[Taylortwocities]

Your a business man not a taxman, scrimping pennies for making adjustments to a PIR you set up does not make good business sense as i already said and you Sky man anology is a poor example ... if the sky dish is set up and you find you signal is bad they will return and correct for free they have a duty of care that the set-up is correct, customising the sky box to personel taste is not comparable example having said that most sky engineers will do a basic set up as part of the install if you ask and any issues you can call them and they will take you through it step by step over the phone if you are a technophobe, alot of people out there have trouble following what would be to us basic instructions and having the attitude that they have user instructions and wash your hands of it will only alienate a good proportion of the market and do you no favours for your business.

Yeah right. So what do i do when the PIR keeps going off because their bloomin bamboo starts waving in the wind.
Stay there all night holding it down?

I don't think so. Small jobs like this are tough enough to make any money at.
£40 to supply and fit (less tax on the profit), then I have to cut an invoice, do a Minor Works Cert and trek down to the bank to pay in the cheque.
Then go back to make adjustments to controls that are there for the user? I don't think so.

 

[Darkwood]

Yeah right. So what do i do when the PIR keeps going off because their bloomin bamboo starts waving in the wind.
Stay there all night holding it down?

I don't think so. Small jobs like this are tough enough to make any money at.
£40 to supply and fit (less tax on the profit), then I have to cut an invoice, do a Minor Works Cert and trek down to the bank to pay in the cheque.
Then go back to make adjustments to controls that are there for the user? I don't think so.

If that was the case i would suggest poor install and design, if the PIR is likely to be repeatedly false triggered from heating flue's, passing traffic etc then i would have the forsight to advice the customer against a PIR in the requested area....i personally dont fit PIR lighting unless its part of a larger job i learnt many years ago the failure rate of them regardless of brand makes them not worth the hassle as a small job but understand when needs must but wouldn't be an excuse for a poorly sighted PIR.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

PIR's are the biggest time wasters ever.....I've had customers insist their light must stay on for a set amount of time...and then time it with a watch....and then get you up and down like a tarts knickers trying to get it exactly right:dizzy2:......Also had one lady who moaned cos it picked up hubbies car but not hers.....:banghead:

 

[Des 56]

PIR's are the biggest time wasters ever.....I've had customers insist their light must stay on for a set amount of time...and then time it with a watch....and then get you up and down like a tarts knickers trying to get it exactly right:dizzy2:......Also had one lady who moaned cos it picked up hubbies car but not hers.....:banghead:

Wirepuller,an experienced spark such as yourself, forgetting the Gender sensor.Tut Tut :74:

 

[Darkwood]

Totally agree as i said il only do it if part of a larger job but i always prep the customers that the range of them follows a seasonal pattern re' to air temp and objects are picked up due to heat signature so a car thats been sat cold and just started can sometimes fail to trigger where as a car thats been on the road a while will trail a heat signature. This alone can stop half the weird phone calls but i always explain the time adjustment is not linear so it can only be estimated if it isnt time marked in seconds and minutes.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Sure, for a big job you can build in some bunce, but Dean's query was specifically about a one off job.

How do other members think,
half hour for parts, hour to fit, then allocate another hour to drive over
after the customer's phonecall about didn't go off/ reflection from next
door's pond/ boiler flue etc. .