Cheeky builder tapping up my staff

[Welchyboy1]

one of the building companies i work with reasonably regularly has just been taken over by the son, i got on with the dad like clockwork and was a pleasure working for him, but his son is now trying to screw me down on prices for the big jobs hes pricing and on smaller jobs he has been calling an electrician who works for me to do these jobs direct, obviously cutting me out to get a cheap job

the sparky who works for me is very loyal and has told me everytime, i really want to front this **** and bend his ear about ethical working practices, but i dont want to fall out with his dad who has been good to me

the electrician is a subby but pretty much full time, hes not registered with a scheme

i know i dont have any legal rights but i bend over backwards to get his jobs done and it has really put my nose out of joint!

what say yous!

 

[Welchyboy1]

I have experienced the exact thing myself over the last 2 years, I have stopped working for them now and did vertually all their work the previous 11 years I have been in business, the son is a total **** and he started trying to get me to give him money for the pleasure of working for him as his dad retired. He also started paying 4 weeks late and I just decided to move on elsewhere, tough at first but It was worth it.

Thing is MDJ i really dont need their work, its stressful they give you no notice but always paid on time, no quibbles which was the only thing i kept coming back for but now i might just tell him to poke it!

 

[Welchyboy1]

dont drop your own standards to suit them.....

Yeah your right m8

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Thing is MDJ i really dont need their work, its stressful they give you no notice but always paid on time, no quibbles which was the only thing i kept coming back for but now i might just tell him to poke it!

no.

Dont burn bridges....

and you dont turn down work either...especially if they have been good payers.

It seems the Dad is still holding the cash strings behind the scenes....
dont forget the chancellor has the power

as has been suggested here already...go see his Dad...and i`m sure he`ll tell this young buck how he should be behaving...

 

[jaypp]

get asked all the time and you know when the conversation is heading that way. i nip it in the bud politely, and self certification is the perfect excuse! as others say, why risk steady income for a quick guilty earner. same as cash jobs, 'ok, i'll risk investigation/prosecution just so YOU can save 20%' sure! the guy i work for is far from the perfect boss, but likewise i'm far from perfect too! he always pays and has fed n watered family and much like op's subbie, i return that by not poaching customers. i sleep well too!
oh yeah, agree, speak to dad, we're never to old to be 'ticked off' by parents!

 

[Hawkmoon]

I have to say that 'tapping up' had a whole different meaning in my day lol

 

[Paul.M]

30%-40% of my annual income is via sub-contracting work for individual firms. I've been asked loads of times to work for "them" directly. The answer has always been NO. 3 years ago (and just to get the guy off my back, asking me every day kind of thing) asked me to work for his few students lets. I just said yes AND THAT LITTLE FOOKER HAD ME ON VOICE RECORD ON HS PHONE!!! He played it back to my "gaffer" (so he could try and knock off some of the bill, that did not work lol), made me look like a right C***.

Small direct jobs do not pay the mortgage and bills. The 30%-40% per year income dose!

Butter your bread, ---- it up in the air and see which way it falls? Short term fine, long term = out of a job and start looking again. Good luck with that.



Have a pint with the Dad and strings will be pulled and words will be said.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

30%-40% of my annual income is via sub-contracting work for individual firms. I've been asked loads of times to work for "them" directly. The answer has always been NO. 3 years ago (and just to get the guy off my back, asking me every day kind of thing) asked me to work for his few students lets. I just said yes AND THAT LITTLE FOOKER HAD ME ON VOICE RECORD ON HS PHONE!!! He played it back to my "gaffer" (so he could try and knock off some of the bill, that did not work lol), made me look like a right C***.

Small direct jobs do not pay the mortgage and bills. The 30%-40% per year income dose!

Butter your bread, ---- it up in the air and see which way it falls? Short term fine, long term = out of a job and start looking again. Good luck with that.



Have a pint with the Dad and strings will be pulled and words will be said.

you could always brush off the bits...


on a serious note though....i have my own customers to worry about and if anyone subbing for me starts them kind of antics then i`ll get shut...straight away....

 

[jaypp]

I have to say that 'tapping up' had a whole different meaning in my day lol

much like when 'gay' meant 'happy'!

 

[Hawkmoon]

much like when 'gay' meant 'happy'!

Yep, back in the day of aztec bars and birmingham bags! - and crombie jackets

 

[Deleted member 72666]

Yep, back in the day of aztec bars and birmingham bags! - and crombie jackets

Not heard of aztec bars but wore oxford bags and had a crombie (coat) in my younger days!

 

[Hawkmoon]

Not heard of aztec bars but wore oxford bags and had a crombie (coat) in my younger days!

Aztec bars (similar to mars bars) were around late 60s, early 70s - heard of oxford bags too, birmingham bags similar, big pockets on thighs, high waistband etc