City and Guilds 2356, NVQ Level 3....... COMING TO AN END!!! *A MUST READ*

[Rthor1981]

Fellow Sparks!

I have worked in the industry since i left school (12 years ago) off my own back i completed night school for 3 years at my local college doing the City and Guilds 2360 part 1 and 2 (7 years ago) i have also got both my 2382-10 17th edition and City and Guilds 2391. recently after i applied for the JIB gold card i discovered that i am only graded (by them) as an electrical improver/Trainee! They Informed me that to complete my qualifications and be graded as an electrician i must undertake City and Guilds 2356, NVQ Level 3!?

My first question is does anyone know anyway round this? I have sent 2 seperate references from previous employers stating that i have actually ran Jobs and yet JIB still wont grade me any differently!

My local college runs this at a price of £1800 but will need to do various assesments and actually come and visit me on site!! This will not go down well amongst site foremen and electricians underneath me, that i am having to have trainers out to asses my work!!

SECONDLY! And this is the BIG one! Having spoke to City and Guilds Directly they have informed me that the C&G 2356 is actually changing to the C&G 2357! and if i have not registered for my 2356 by July 2012 all my previous City and Guilds qualifications will no longer be recognised!!!!!!!!!!! I can see there is going to be alot of very very unhappy people come August!!

If anyone has got any info whatsoever regards this please HELP! I certainly dont want to be starting from scratch regards my qualifications for this so i am actually looking to get this sorted asap in the quickest time possible!

 

[CRAGS]

I did mine with Delta as I had read many posts on the forum on how good they were I had the choice of a few and could of got it cheaper but after reading the recommendations on here I decided to go with Delta

 

[APSH]

Hi There. First time poster here. Sorry for jumping in here with probably a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can answer my question?
I am an electrician with C&G 2360 pt 1 and 2 passed in 2004 and 2005, also a NVQ level 3 Electrical installation (building and structures) passed in 2006, AM2 passed in 2006, C&G 17th edition update passed in 2008 and C&G Pat testing passed in 2008.
I am just wondering due to not working in the industry full time only as and when I can for an electrician friend of mine scince 2009 due to having to look after my unwell mother, will I need the new NVQ to gain employment and Part p as I am looking to return full time in 2 - 3 months doing my own work hopefully, due to change of situation? Hope you can help me out as I have asked others and didn't really get a certain answer.
Thanks alot
Andy

 

[jase]

or do as i did, just do a CSCS H+s exam under generel operative just to get on site and to hell with the JIB
Jobsworth Idiot Bas****s

 

[Knobhead]

It’s of no interest to me now but I can understand your confusion and annoyance caused by the C&G shifting qualifications around. Yet again!

If you hold a qualification all be it a few years out of date, it proves you had the skill and knowledge required at the time! They can’t take it away from you!

My C&G (Electrical Technician) was issued by the Union of Lancashire and Cheshire Institutes in 1975.

EITB J02 & J22 was even harder to get, but nobody even knows what they are now. 3 years of constant observation by supervisors marking every bit of your work took a lot of commitment from you and your company. (I’ve got bragging rights here) I was the first apprentice in the country to finish the course while still serving my time.

OK I’ve got a Mickey Mouse C&G 17[SUP]th[/SUP] edition from 2009. There have been a lot of others in between, “Gas Safe” I’m chuffed about having. It’s not for domestic, but industrial gasses (which includes natural gas at 7 bar).

I wonder what the JIB would make of me! Not that I give a stuff.

It’s unfair to move goal posts for tradesmen established in the industry. It’s like a prison sentence, you’ve done your time, proved you’re safe to be let out in to the community but some money grubbing parasite latches on to you and moves things around.

I’m proud of being a part of this industry, but I despair at the way it’s going. If I went to the JIB today (not that I ever have in the past) I’d be lucky to be the site TEA BOY!

 

[Rthor1981]

Thanks for all the advice guys and i certainly agree with Tony these constant moving goal posts are a complete nightmare! What will it be next!

I spoke to both Trade Skills Ltd and Delta yesterday afternoon and have decided to go with the Trade Skills. Both sounded great and straight forward but Trade Skills were a little more imformative and also do an interest free payment plan which has really helped me out they also price matched with Delta because there were 2 of us so cant complain at all!

 

[D Skelton]

will I need the new NVQ to gain employment and Part p

In short, no.

 

[Rthor1981]

Just got a further £10 off for refering a friend too ...... LOL! Now cheaper than Delta!! For info guys please click here City and guilds 2356 or ring 08443307382, i spoke to a guy called Rob and he was very very helpful! If you know a few people wanting to obtain the qualification you will personally recieve £10 for every referal!