Claiming Jobseekers

Geordie Spark · Jul 2, 2012

Dillb said:
There are scumbags in every part of life, look at the likes of Rated people.

Look at the recent Jimmy Carr tax scandal, these sort of things happen because those that didn't do too well at University go and work for the government (yes I have done this) while those that did well find loopholes to get around it.

Not to mention our wonderful MPs and their expenses. Even our Glorious Leader had his hand in the till !!!

Guest55 · Jul 2, 2012

Just signed on today for the jobseekers at the dole office.
Benefits interview went great.
Claims advisor asked "What have you done this week to look for work Mr. Biff"

"Well i spend 12 hours solid arguing with plumber trolls on the electricians forum and got 5 "likes" to my posts"
Thought its probably not a good idea to ask for a £4K grant to do the HND im interested in lol.

sbrown2 · Jul 2, 2012

DILB what happens is you build the benefits system into when you start your business. I know you are honest. But that is what the successful people might do. Part of their "SWOT" analysis. What is your major threat? having no work. How can you counteract this? With savings, loans or the benefits system.
I'm employed and my SWOT analysis has not helped me with the 2 grands worth of car repairs that have just come in!!

Guest55 · Jul 2, 2012

Just to add , i recognised 2 other sparks in the jobcentre as well.

sbrown2 · Jul 2, 2012

Are electricians suffering that much?

Guest55 · Jul 2, 2012

In the northwest , yes.
Couldnt comment on other areas of the UK.

Plonker 3 · Jul 2, 2012

sbrown2 said:
How can you counteract this? With savings, loans or the benefits system.

But nobodies pot of money is bottomless is it?

Why should I take out a loan when there is a system in place that I have contributed too all my working life?

sbrown2 · Jul 2, 2012

Agreed. Therefore, I would not promote this, but utilise the benefits system in the best way you can. Others do it. By the way Im in nottingham also is work that low in our area. Also do you do any maintenance type work?

Octopus · Jul 2, 2012

What is totally unacceptable is that people who claim income based job seekers allowance are treated very differently in the benefits system versus those claiming contributions based.

I thought that the benefits system was "universal" but its not.

Plonker 3 · Jul 2, 2012

sbrown2 said:
Agreed. Therefore, I would not promote this, but utilise the benefits system in the best way you can. Others do it. By the way Im in nottingham also is work that low in our area. Also do you do any maintenance type work?

Yes it seems very quiet at the moment, I have been taken on other little jobs recently to try and keep the money coming in, but obviously trying to get them over established companies is like starting anew business altogether again.

I would gladly take on maintenace work, why do you have some for me

Plonker 3 · Jul 2, 2012

Murdoch said:
What is totally unacceptable is that people who claim income based job seekers allowance are treated very differently in the benefits system versus those claiming contributions based.

I thought that the benefits system was "universal" but its not.

It is a sad state of affairs when we can't even treat everyone the same regardless of their circumstances. Yes some people extract the urine when it comes to benfits but because of that everyone who claims seems to get tarred with the same brush.

Octopus · Jul 2, 2012

Dillb said:
It is a sad state of affairs when we can't even treat everyone the same regardless of their circumstances. Yes some people extract the urine when it comes to benfits but because of that everyone who claims seems to get tarred with the same brush.

Just think of how much money they could save by simply doing away with this "simple" change.

Might just write to my MP!

As it stands, those who contibute the least get the most and those who contribute the most get the least.

Des 56 · Jul 2, 2012

Murdoch said:
What is totally unacceptable is that people who claim income based job seekers allowance are treated very differently in the benefits system versus those claiming contributions based.

I thought that the benefits system was "universal" but its not.

What does this mean and who qualifies for each ?
I thought "on the Dole" was just one benefit

Just been told the system,its weird,it seems to be weighed in favour of the folks who have never worked

Richard Burns · Jul 2, 2012

If you have paid enough national insurance contributions in the past then you will qualify for NI based JSA for six months.
If you have not paid enough NI and you have no income then you qualify for income based JSA.
For the first you get no help, no free stuff, etc.
For the second everything is given to you on a plate.

Geordie Spark · Jul 2, 2012

Richard Burns said:
If you have paid enough national insurance contributions in the past then you will qualify for NI based JSA for six months.
If you have not paid enough NI and you have no income then you qualify for income based JSA.
For the first you get no help, no free stuff, etc.
For the second everything is given to you on a plate.

One of the (many) things that gets on my t**s, is when I and other folk who have worked hard & paid our dues into the system and then fall upon hard times, go into the Jobcentre to make a claim & we're expected to know what to ask for & what we're entitled to, and when we don't, the benefits "advisor" looks at us like we're stupid.

Meanwhile, at the next desk, there's the chocolate- brown lady with her headscarf who has contributed very little - if anything - having everything explained to her to the nth degree !!!!

So much for equality !!!!