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They would if you allowed them into your life.
As I suggested, you are full of rubbish - and now you've been called out on the facts, you're trying the age old tactic of diversion by posting true but totally irrelevant facts in a hope that people won't realise that they in no way whatsoever support your argument or disprove your opponent's.
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Below is what I have found. You can do the math​

Globally, crude's reserves-to-production ratio has hovered between 40-55 years. (Then the well runs dry)

How Much Oil Does the World Have Left? - https://tinyurl.com/yd7cfczq
https://tinyurl.com/yd7cfczqv

The above is saying, all the known oil reserves will be sucked up and burned within 40-55 years.

What so many people fail re realize is the there are two (2) dynamics going on here
which on the surface seem unrelated which is our biggest mistake

World Oil Reserves
1,650,585,140,000 barrels

47 years of oil left
(at current consumption levels)
World Oil Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

This means, at current consumption all the known oil reserves will be sucked up and burned in 47 years.


This may not concern you because you will not be around then; but your grandchildren will !!

Fighting climate change and discovering new renewable energy resources are fighting to achieve the same thing. The survival of the human race.

The end of the Fossil Fuel era is upon us so what are we going to do next-?

I think it is time for us to look around at other countries who see the end of oil around the corner----------------

China plans ban on petrol and diesel cars

China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars

China to ban all petrol and diesel cars

China to plow $361 billion into renewable fuel by 2020 | Reuters
China to plow $361 billion into renewable fuel by 2020 - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-energy-renewables/china-to-plow-361-billion-into-renewable-fuel-by-2020-idUSKBN14P06P

(a Berlin-based think tank) and Clean Energy Wire (an associated communications team) announced that renewable electricity “probably” covered more than 90 percent of power demand at 58 GW for a couple of hours on Sunday. Germany nearly reached 100 percent renewable power on Sunday | Energy Transition - https://tinyurl.com/mm9zkt7

People are cutting the use of fossil fuels and learning how to use renewables when in fact at current consumption rates the world well suck up and burn all known reserves in 40-50 years.

Then what?
 
We all got to try and stop burning stuff, there's no planet B. You dont have to be a genius to see whats happening..
We have the technology but not the global will as its cheaper and easier to keep doing what we've been doing since the industrial revolution. The rich countries should help the developing ones.
The difference is that we now know what they didnt about the environment and climate change back in 1800 - yet we still have the attitude that it wont happen, or "it wont affect us"! The uk, so far, has been relatively fortunate due to its geographical location.

Never mind what you read in the papers and what fred says down the pub, look around you - the ice caps are melting, global flooding and wildfires, unseasonal droughts etc.. wake up and smell the fumes, or they'll get you in the end, when its too late!
Here endeth the first lesson..
 
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,ClimateChange.,.,.,.,.,

Below is what I have found. You can do the math​

Globally, crude's reserves-to-production ratio has hovered between 40-55 years. (Then the well runs dry)

How Much Oil Does the World Have Left? - https://tinyurl.com/yd7cfczq
https://tinyurl.com/yd7cfczqv

The above is saying, all the known oil reserves will be sucked up and burned within 40-55 years.

What so many people fail re realize is the there are two (2) dynamics going on here
which on the surface seem unrelated which is our biggest mistake

World Oil Reserves
1,650,585,140,000 barrels

47 years of oil left
(at current consumption levels)
World Oil Statistics - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

This means, at current consumption all the known oil reserves will be sucked up and burned in 47 years.


This may not concern you because you will not be around then; but your grandchildren will !!

Fighting climate change and discovering new renewable energy resources are fighting to achieve the same thing. The survival of the human race.

The end of the Fossil Fuel era is upon us so what are we going to do next-?

I think it is time for us to look around at other countries who see the end of oil around the corner----------------

China plans ban on petrol and diesel cars

China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars

China to ban all petrol and diesel cars

China to plow $361 billion into renewable fuel by 2020 | Reuters
China to plow $361 billion into renewable fuel by 2020 - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-energy-renewables/china-to-plow-361-billion-into-renewable-fuel-by-2020-idUSKBN14P06P

(a Berlin-based think tank) and Clean Energy Wire (an associated communications team) announced that renewable electricity “probably” covered more than 90 percent of power demand at 58 GW for a couple of hours on Sunday. Germany nearly reached 100 percent renewable power on Sunday | Energy Transition - https://tinyurl.com/mm9zkt7

People are cutting the use of fossil fuels and learning how to use renewables when in fact at current consumption rates the world well suck up and burn all known reserves in 40-50 years.

Then what?
Oil wont run out.

As cheap to extract oil is exhausted the price will increase.

As the price rises previously uneconomical sources become viable for extraction.

Now something odd happens, as investment and technological advances happen the price of oil falls as extraction costs fall until this source is also exhausted.

Rinse and repeat for a good few hundred years.

Oil is not running out any rme soon but it will become more expensive in a three steps forward, two steps back kind of way.

Also adding to price volatility is market loss, as the price goes up consumers will, where practicable, move to either another energy source (LNG) or another technology (EVs).

Especially with EVs once the car manufacturers have tooled up and the infrastructure is in place there will be no return to ICEs.

Finally oil is one of the most corrupted and manipulated markets ever to exist. We, as mere mortals, do not have access to the real information to form valid conclusions.

As for renewables, wind and solar are not the answer and to explain why would be insulting.

Why we abandoned nuclear is a mystery.

Why we are not exploiting Thorium is a crime and can only lead one to the conclusion that the whole energy market is rigged to extract the absolute maximum from the consumer without collapsing the economy.

We a literally being bent over a barrel.
 
We all got to try and stop burning stuff, there's no planet B. You dont have to be a genius to see whats happening..

No, but you do have to be a "Scientist". Most people live a fairly sheltered life and have no real handle on wat is happening, they either listen to the news and fully accept Man Made climate change or they don't.
We have the technology but not the global will as its cheaper and easier to keep doing what we've been doing since the industrial revolution.

Fosil fuels are maintained as they are controllable, in that the price and supply can be manipulated.

The common plebeian has absolutely zero control over these things we can no more change national energy policy than change the tides.

Yes, you get some middle class boomer retiree who fits solar panels and a heat pump, buys fair trade coffee from Booths and is convinced he's making a difference, he's not, he's simply trying to assuage his guilt for selling the planet down the river.
The rich countries should help the developing ones.

When we intervene were colonialists when we don't were heartless.

Absolute logic would suggest the best course of action would be to not help developing countries develop, and thus add to the climates woes?
The difference is that we now know what they didnt about the environment and climate change back in 1800 - yet we still have the attitude that it wont happen, or "it wont affect us"! The uk, so far, has been relatively fortunate due to its geographical location.

Ah the, its happening somewhere else, honest, approach.
Never mind what you read in the papers and what fred says down the pub, look around you -

Oh I do, and do you know what I see?

The rich and powerful still buying beach side property, flying to climate conferences in private jets or personal yatchs.
the ice caps are melting, global flooding and wildfires, unseasonal droughts etc.. wake up and smell the fumes, or they'll get you in the end, when its too late!
Here endeth the first lesson..
No they're not, we'll, some do, some don't.

Haven't the time at the moment can expand if you wish
 
I can never understand why all the climate science has such a narrow base mostly focused around the last 200 - 250 years when the earth has evolved to what it is today from an ice age that ended circa 11,700 years ago and is according to some sources now overdue another ice age if that was to happen is the climate evolution we are experiencing now just a redistribution of all the water before it freezes.
If you open out the science then why not take into account all the the other forces within the solar system that carbon zero will have no effect on yet can have a lot to do with how our climate is changing

The question is can we hold back or make nature deviate from it's natural course
 
I can never understand why all the climate science has such a narrow base mostly focused around the last 200 - 250 years when the earth has evolved to what it is today from an ice age that ended circa 11,700 years ago and is according to some sources now overdue another ice age if that was to happen is the climate evolution we are experiencing now just a redistribution of all the water before it freezes.
If you open out the science then why not take into account all the the other forces within the solar system that carbon zero will have no effect on yet can have a lot to do with how our climate is changing

The question is can we hold back or make nature deviate from it's natural course
In short it is because it is a classic case of making the science fit a theory, the antithesis of true science.

Interesting you mention 11700 years, here's a plot of climatic activity around that time.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Climate Change is not alone, changers on the way


Oh and that tiny uptick at the end is what has Greta pi55ing her panties over.

Not so much a storm in a teacup, more the ripples from a fly landing in your tea.
 

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