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Hi all

Have just got my foot in the door with an estate agents in bromley after a recommendation from a past customer,

I was call to quote for work after a periodic inspection.

There were a few things that I'm not 100% on and could do with a bit of help,

They have put a code two next to the bonding stating that the 6mm main bond need Upgrading
Also all sockets needed an rcd ( code2) My understanding was that at the time of install probably about 30 years ago this was in line with current regs and should be a code 4 ,

I don't mind doing the work but a new board and bonding will cost ÂŁ550 and don't think the old lady can afford it at the moment,

So what I was thinking was change them to a code 4 and advise the customer of the benefits if upgrading very soon

Any help please.
 
What is the earthing system for the 6mm to need upgrading ?
Are there any RCd protected sockets in the installation that could be expected to supply external equipment, early 1980s, 15th edition,many had a single RCd at that time

An upfront Rcd of the 15th complies more with the 17th than a split load 16th edition for compliance of bathrooms
If no Rcd exists,I would install one on the front end rather than burden her with a new consumer unit that is not wanted or required

The 6mm may or may not be OK depending on the installation type and condition of the cables
 
I'd agree with Des on both the bonding and RCD requirement.

If I come across an install with "sockets likely to supply equipment outdoors" with no RCD protection, I attribute a code 2.

As for the bonding again dependant on earthing system type and condition of existing bonding cables.
 
Hi all

Have just got my foot in the door with an estate agents in bromley after a recommendation from a past customer,

I was call to quote for work after a periodic inspection.

There were a few things that I'm not 100% on and could do with a bit of help,

They have put a code two next to the bonding stating that the 6mm main bond need Upgrading
Also all sockets needed an rcd ( code2) My understanding was that at the time of install probably about 30 years ago this was in line with current regs and should be a code 4 ,

I don't mind doing the work but a new board and bonding will cost ÂŁ550 and don't think the old lady can afford it at the moment,

So what I was thinking was change them to a code 4 and advise the customer of the benefits if upgrading very soon

Any help please.

This would be fine at the minute however if any modification was ever completed then they would need upgrading to comply with current regs.

I personally would put a code 2 for the following reason "Code 2 Requires improvement" however I would be explaining to the customer the reasons why and pointing to the ESC

PIRS explained | Electrical Safety Council
 
If the PIR was done by another contractor as I understand from the OP you are on a sticky wicket 'changing' the codes attributed on that PIR. I certainly wouldnt ,though I agree with you and the others that the codes are probably not correct....I think you should quote for the work required by the PIR coding in order to render the installation satisfactory relative to the PIR which is already in place, whether you agree with it or not.
 
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If the PIR was done by another contractor as I understand from the OP you are on a sticky wicket 'changing' the codes attributed on that PIR. I certainly wouldnt ,though I agree with you and the others that the codes are probably not correct....I think you should quote for the work required by the PIR coding in order to render the installation satisfactory relative to the PIR which is already in place, whether you agree with it or not.

Thanks guys , I have just sent off a quote for remedial work 10 mm bond and new dis board.
 

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