Coding for earths wrapped around each other?

[HappyHippyDad]

Hello all..

I have just completed an EICR.

The earths for the ceiling lights are wrapped around each other (neatly and well, numerous times) and sheathed in old green sheath. They are then poked up into the ceiling void. This is obviously all wrong nowadays, but I can't decide if it's a C2 or C3. I would think C3? They are making a very good connection with each other, probably better than sheathed separately and clamped down with a screw too tightly! However, It would be good to hear opinions

 

[westward10]

Code 2 it is not a mechanical connection nor are they suitably enclosed.

 

[DefyG]

Probably as good as the twist on wire connector nuts, which I'm surprised are still permitted, and as it tests satisfactorily and unlikely to be disturbed in normal use I would think C3 too.

 

[littlespark]

not suitably enclosed though.... however good the joint is... it cant just be poked into the ceiling

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Code 2 it is not a mechanical connection nor are they suitably enclosed.

Could I ask if you ever did this in the past Westward? Genuine question as I believe you were around back in the olden days ;-) (could get a temporary ban for that). But it really is a genuine question. Was it common place, even amongst good electricians to terminate the earths this way?

 

[westward10]

Could I ask if you ever did this in the past Westward? Genuine question as I believe you were around back in the olden days ;-) (could get a temporary ban for that). But it really is a genuine question. Was it common place, even amongst good electricians to terminate the earths this way?

Never done it (I'm not that old) and I doubt it was ever a prescribed method for terminating cpcs.

 

[mainline]

526.1 Every connection between conductors or between a conductor and other equipment shall provide
durable electrical continuity and adequate mechanical strength and protection.

 

[DefyG]

not suitably enclosed though.... however good the joint is... it cant just be poked into the ceiling

526.1 Every connection between conductors or between a conductor and other equipment shall provide
durable electrical continuity and adequate mechanical strength and protection.

I think we are all in agreement it is a non-compliance. The issue is, is it a C2 - Potentially Dangerous or C3 in need of an improvement?
EICR's can be very subjective and we all have our reasons and opinions, that's the beauty of forums like this. Everyone can state theirs rightly or wrongly. We are never going to always agree!

 

[mainline]

I think we are all in agreement it is a non-compliance. The issue is, is it a C2 - Potentially Dangerous or C3 in need of an improvement?
EICR's can be very subjective and we all have our reasons and opinions, that's the beauty of forums like this. Everyone can state theirs rightly or wrongly. We are never going to always agree!

No enclosure, not terminated properly. Its a c2