Hi all.. needing help with an old Smith coin Meter. I've moved into a flat that has a £1 coin operated meter that the tenants upstairs use for their immersion heater. This is how it works.. they put in a £1and that in turn runs off my electricity. I have told my landlady who says everything is right with the meter and not to worry. I've looked at the coin meter and it is calibrated for 14 units.. I pay 14.95p per kWh.. is this right? is it costing me money above what they pay? If so how much please.
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Octopus
If you divide £1.00 by 14 then the other person is paying about 7p per kWh
So it looks like it's costing you about 7p for each kWh they are using ...
That's assuming the 14kwh per £1 is correct
Maybe get somebody to check this out properly
So it looks like it's costing you about 7p for each kWh they are using ...
That's assuming the 14kwh per £1 is correct
Maybe get somebody to check this out properly
Thanks for the reply. Upstairs have their own supply except for their immersion which runs off my Meter. I do pocket the money usually £4 per week. As of now the £1 are the discontinue. For the pound they get 3 tanks and a few sink fills of hot water.
So does that mean I am subsidising half of his usage. My tariff is 14.95p as told to me by my supplier. Thanks for replying.
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Octopus
Please investigate more ..... I'm guessing
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Octopus
Maybe the landlord needs to investigate getting it connected to their board .....
They have refused.
Since you have the key to the money box, you can reset the dial to the correct nunumbeof units per coin. You are slloall a slight profit to cover your trouble. Divide £1 by the cost per unit, so I have been settings to 6 units per coin. Slide the clockwork mechanism out and turn it is that the setting pin is in the correct notch. Some so old that inflation was unforeseen and are at the limit of their setting options. Not financially viable to replace meter, just take photos of the reading every month and show the tenant, calculate cost and they can reimburse.
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Leesparkykent
It's costing you just shy of 1 pence per KWH used. The immersion will more than likely be 3KW. Say the water temp is 15 degree and they have the immersion set to 55 degree and the hot water cylinder is 120 litres then it would roughly take around 1 hour 50 to get up to temp using roughly 5.5 KWH.
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Octopus
Where is the fuse or MCB for said immersion heater .....
No, he says the meter is set at 14 units per pound coin. So he is losing over 7p per kilowatt. It needs to be reset to at least 7 units, but i set at 6. There is a legal maximum you can resell at.
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Thanks all for replying. Excuse my ignorance but does them using my electricity mean I
It's in the electric cupboard under the stairs.. should I take out the fuse lol.
Excuse my ignorance but how much will be coming off my Meter if they are getting 7p per unit on 14 units.
Thanks all for replying. Excuse my ignorance but does them using my electricity mean I
It's in the electric cupboard under the stairs.. should I take out the fuse lol.
Excuse my ignorance but how much will be coming off my Meter if they are getting 7p per unit on 14 units.
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Leesparkykent
I didn't read the thread correctly. If that is the case based on the calculation above using 7pence then it's costing roughly 40 pence
So basically I'm paying 7p towards them keeping clean. Gonna pull the plug on that.I didn't read the thread correctly. If that is the case based on the calculation above using 7pence then it's costing roughly 40 pence
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Not sure how all this would work, considering it uses old £1 coins.
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I have something similar where I live, only it uses card tokens.
They pay me £20 cash, I insert a card (which the Landlord supplies) worth £20.
They pay me £20 cash, I insert a card (which the Landlord supplies) worth £20.
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Are you sure it’s 14 Units per pound, not 14p per Unit?
One of my customers keeps a bag of old 50p just for the meter and swaps them back for reuse when he empties it. Won't pay for it to be replaced or rewired. Well it works so don't fix it.
Oops again the coin Meter is calibrated for 14 units per £1 coin
I believe the set up is from the eighties when the owner lived there and had a boarder.. the meter I have just found out has never been calibrated and the new owner is loath to install a meter for the immersion at a huge cost.. hence they all want it staying on my Meter.. even calibrating it seems to be a non topic.
as i said earlier, you can calibrate it, take 2 minutes.
or you explain to tenant and charge him the extra.
yes, common practise in the 60's when people had "lodgers", or houses split on the cheap. one customer I had complained she did not use 50p worth of hot water for her bath, so if she had her bath first, the other tenant benefitted. wanted me to put in a 10p meter so she could just pay 30p. very determined she was.
or you explain to tenant and charge him the extra.
yes, common practise in the 60's when people had "lodgers", or houses split on the cheap. one customer I had complained she did not use 50p worth of hot water for her bath, so if she had her bath first, the other tenant benefitted. wanted me to put in a 10p meter so she could just pay 30p. very determined she was.
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A penny pinching pensioner, sounds a bit like my mother. I would love to calibrate it.. not sure what my landlady would say though... sadly. Thanks for all the help.
A penny pinching pensioner, sounds a bit like my mother. I would love to calibrate it.. not sure what my landlady would say though... sadly. Thanks for all the help.
All landlord metering is should be MID Approved. It doesn't sound like this coin meter meets MID approval.
Google MID Approved Meters.
or see the gov guidance
MID approved gas and electricity meters - GOV.UK - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mid-approved-gas-and-electricity-meters
Google MID Approved Meters.
or see the gov guidance
MID approved gas and electricity meters - GOV.UK - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mid-approved-gas-and-electricity-meters
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You should also add VAT to the 14.95p per unit when resetting the meter.
PiesRus
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Don't tempt me.
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