Combi boiler & extractor fan in zone 1

[littlespark]

Well, at least a housing association isn't going to make things difficult for you if you complain, although i'm surprised there are so many faults.
Write them a letter listing the faults, and take a copy with photographs to the CAB. The HA can be forced to make things right.

ps... the carbon monoxide detector isn't put where the gas supply is.... its located where gas or other fossil fuel is being burned... A gas fire, a wood burner stove or a gas central heating boiler... which means in your case, the Co alarm should be in the bathroom.... where it isn't going to work properly because of the steam that isn't being extracted.

 

[littlespark]

Well, at least a housing association isn't going to make things difficult for you if you complain, although i'm surprised there are so many faults.
Write them a letter listing the faults, and take a copy with photographs to the CAB. The HA can be forced to make things right.

ps... the carbon monoxide detector isn't put where the gas supply is.... its located where gas or other fossil fuel is being burned... A gas fire, a wood burner stove or a gas central heating boiler... which means in your case, the Co alarm should be in the bathroom.... where it isn't going to work properly because of the steam that isn't being extracted.

 

[Toneyz]

Agree with Littlespark the idea of housing associations is that it is safe affordable housing I would draft a letter/email with photo's to the H/A first before taking it further.

 

[Corbs]

Well, at least a housing association isn't going to make things difficult for you if you complain, although i'm surprised there are so many faults.
Write them a letter listing the faults, and take a copy with photographs to the CAB. The HA can be forced to make things right.

ps... the carbon monoxide detector isn't put where the gas supply is.... its located where gas or other fossil fuel is being burned... A gas fire, a wood burner stove or a gas central heating boiler... which means in your case, the Co alarm should be in the bathroom.... where it isn't going to work properly because of the steam that isn't being extracted.

wrong dont need a co alarm

and going off a regs stand point theres nothing wrong with it aslong as the fused spur is else where to comply with elec zone regs

 

[littlespark]

Nothing wrong with a 230 appliance in zone 1?
Must be an IP rated boiler.

BS7671 aside, it’s bloody daft to have a boiler above a bathtub.

 

[Harry_P]

Hi, so someone decided to put a bathtub under a boiler and electric extractor fan. Half the bathtub is taken up by the boiler. It has a cupboard around the top and the sides, but the base and pipes going into the wall are exposed. More space will go if a shower mixer is installed and there is an extractor fan right above to worry about splashing.

I'm very unhappy with this. I'm sure if you don't electricute yourself, it's a concussion waiting to happen.

Is this legal? Should I get an inspection?

wrong dont need a co alarm

and going off a regs stand point theres nothing wrong with it aslong as the fused spur is else where to comply with elec zone regs

If the spur was located elsewhere then there would be no local isolation provided for the boiler so you would be contravening 1 reg just to try to comply with another reg. The idea of a boiler above a bath tub is totally ridiculous for many reasons. You really think there is nothing wrong with having a boiler above a bath? I don't think there is anything right about it tbh

 

[Corbs]

Nothing wrong with a 230 appliance in zone 1?
Must be an IP rated boiler.

BS7671 aside, it’s bloody daft to have a boiler above a bathtub.

Boilers elec are ip rated

Didn't say it was practical just nothing in the regs to say it can't

 

[Corbs]

If the spur was located elsewhere then there would be no local isolation provided for the boiler so you would be contravening 1 reg just to try to comply with another reg. The idea of a boiler above a bath tub is totally ridiculous for many reasons. You really think there is nothing wrong with having a boiler above a bath? I don't think there is anything right about it tbh

There would be local isolation

But what's stopping you installing the fcu outside the zones still complys

Didn't say it was practical just nothing in the regs to say you can't

 

[Harry_P]

There would be local isolation

But what's stopping you installing the fcu outside the zones still complys

Didn't say it was practical just nothing in the regs to say you can't

If you start installing electrical installations on the basis that 'there is nothing in the regs to say you cant" then you are on slippery ground. I prefer to base my designs on what the regs do approve of rather than what the regs say you cant.
Ps when you comply with bs7671 it is assumed that your work will be both safe and practical so if you are suggesting a solution that isn't actually practical then personally I wouldn't think you are complying with bs7671

 

[Corbs]

If you start installing electrical installations on the basis that 'there is nothing in the regs to say you cant" then you are on slippery ground. I prefer to base my designs on what the regs do approve of rather than what the regs say you cant.
Ps when you comply with bs7671 it is assumed that your work will be both safe and practical so if you are suggesting a solution that isn't actually practical then personally I wouldn't think you are complying with bs7671

It is approved

Let's talk about elec showers

Same situation isolation out side of any zones

Seen a few with cooker switches (50 amp dp) outside the room there to reg as there locally

 

[Harry_P]

It is approved

Let's talk about elec showers

Same situation isolation out side of any zones

Seen a few with cooker switches (50 amp dp) outside the room there to reg as there locally

A shower is designed to be in a bath and or a bathroom, there is no boiler on earth that is designed to be installed in or above a bath. On that basis they are certainly NOT the same situation

 

[Corbs]

A shower is designed to be in a bath and or a bathroom, there is no boiler on earth that is designed to be installed in or above a bath. On that basis they are certainly NOT the same situation

But it is

It's ip rated and room sealed

 

[Harry_P]

But it is

It's ip rated and room sealed

What about the fact that as you admitted the siting of the boiler is not practical? Do you think that something that is impractical is acceptable or is it a non compliance with the regs? If you would be happy to put your name to a boiler above a bath that's fine but I wouldn't. Anyway home time now and Happy New year to all

 

[Corbs]

What about the fact that as you admitted the siting of the boiler is not practical? Do you think that something that is impractical is acceptable or is it a non compliance with the regs? If you would be happy to put your name to a boiler above a bath that's fine but I wouldn't. Anyway home time now and Happy New year to all

It might be the only place where the boiler could go or only place the bath could go

It hasn't got a shower only club head taps so it's a bath

It's acceptable in the position in regards to doesn't break any gas regs or elec regs as far as I can tell

Put it this way I would rather have heat and hot water than non at all which doesn't comply with regs as you need heat and hotwater

 

[Midwest]

Put a cupboard over the boiler, then it’s in another room