Company kit and tools stolen

[John Matrix]

Hi lads just looking for advice when it comes to Company kit. Things like test kits etc. If they are left in the van and they get stollen is it the electricians responsibility to foot the bill? We are being told to take them in the house. To me this doesn’t seem unreasonable because I have the room in my garage. My tools also get emptied off the van every night and stored away. We have also been told that if we leave our tools in the van and they go missing, they will not be replaced. It’s a hard one because one could argue that our tools are our responsibility. But some lads live in flats etc and have no room for a van full of tools in the house. Should the tools be covered if they get stolen? Are they covered if left on site in a site safe. Any input would be great

thanks in advance

 

[Robson689]

Several of my colleagues have private mileage on their Company Van's this last year and they've all had their tax codes adjusted to just under 4K a year !

They're not happy as they were told it would be a similar amount as in David's post

It's being looked into over the last 6 months but no answers as yet so I don't know if it's an error someones made or if they'll get a rebate next year

I've never done it so I don't know how it works in reality
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In regard to the OP I worked for a Company that did the same except they bullied and threatened people financially

It was a case of them limiting the insurance bills, they'd had several Van's broken into and as they had inadequate insurance they then had to replace a lot of equipment themselves,
This tactic was their response the insurance level remained the same

Your tax code is reduced as following
£3,430 for the vehicle
£655 for private fuel

This reduces your standard tax free allowance to £8,415

You don't pay the full amount only 20% of it for a basic rate tax payer so the additional tax would be £817 unless you earn over £34,500 a year.

 

[Andy78]

Van got done last night. Nothing left in the van so nothing stollen and I go to work today a happy man with my weekend unspoilt

Glad your tools are ok. Nothing worse in the job than losing them.

Time for a serious chat with the boss about liability and insurance after this event. Unfortunately thieves do return to vans and next time they might try your garage. You need to know where you stand in the event of their gear going missing from your garage. Check with your insurance too.

Seems coincidental that this request for tool safety by the workers comes just before a break in. A suspicious mind might think all sorts.

 

[MFS Electrical]

Yeah I’d be careful if your gonna moan about it seems like it would then be a case of fine don’t take the van home. Only thing I’d question is if your tools are in it during the day are they covered if they get nicked? If they aren’t I wouldn’t be going out my way to protect their gear and I’d leave it in the van.

 

[John Matrix]

Yeah I’d be careful if your gonna moan about it seems like it would then be a case of fine don’t take the van home. Only thing I’d question is if your tools are in it during the day are they covered if they get nicked? If they aren’t I wouldn’t be going out my way to protect their gear and I’d leave it in the van.

This has been covered and I do agree with you. Thy are covered everywhere other than outside our houses. It’s a tough one. I will also be buying one of those cameras that link to your phone and putting it in the window.

 

[David Prosser]

This has been covered and I do agree with you. Thy are covered everywhere other than outside our houses. It’s a tough one. I will also be buying one of those cameras that link to your phone and putting it in the window.

If it's covered everywhere but outside your house what happens if you happen to be doing a job next door and the tools get nicked ?

 

[John Matrix]

If it's covered everywhere but outside your house what happens if you happen to be doing a job next door and the tools get nicked ?

I get the feeling your taking the ----

 

[DT1991]

John I think the company you work for is taking the ----

 

[John Matrix]

John I think the company you work for is taking the ----

I think they are all the same.

 

[Andy78]

I think they are all the same.

Absolutely not. My boss is excellent. He does make me take my tools in every night but he bought them all for me so I'm happy with that.



I may be biased being self employed though.

 

[DT1991]

I think they are all the same.

If your happy to do that then it's fine but I'm saying in my opinion its asking too much of a employee.

 

[Vortigern]

I must say, I would decline personal use of the van and leave it at the place of business and drive in my own vehicle. As I have six in the family to drive around the van would be no use to me. The liability unacceptable.

 

[Mike Johnson]

If your company is implying that their van is not insured outside your house, just ensure you get their van back to the office within working hour's, they will soon get fed up with the reduction in productivity due to you working less.