COMPEX newbie , should you get extra money $$$

[Dozer 73]

new to posting threads on here really , my company is about to get into compex work
would you expect an up lift in wages for carrying out compex work

 

[timbobelfast]

Normally rates should be higher for this type of work. Do you have a compex qualification?

Is the company you work for fully versed and experienced in Ex installations?

 

[Dozer 73]

Normally rates should be higher for this type of work. Do you have a compex qualification?

Is the company you work for fully versed and experienced in Ex installations?

some sparks have done course but never used it , know we are in the middle of applying for licence or what ever it is , we are big civil engineering company and usually sub that side out but have decided to keep it in house

 

[Dozer 73]

could be great for us sparks at the company because we have some big clients on the books

 

[Dozer 73]

Normally rates should be higher for this type of work. Do you have a compex qualification?

Is the company you work for fully versed and experienced in Ex installations?

is there any ruling anywhere that states any up lift JIB , WRA

 

[timbobelfast]

No real a JIB rule but I would be expecting technician rates of pay.

 

[Dozer 73]

No real a JIB rule but I would be expecting technician rates of pay.

yeh I get that anyway with HV and supervising were just wandering how it works at other companies

 

[KennyKen]

In Australia we are upgraded to Special Class.

The Compex here is called Hazardous Areas or EEHA.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

There's lots of qualifications we should be getting paid more for having.
Employer's don't want to pay.

 

[Pete999]

new to posting threads on here really , my company is about to get into compex work
would you expect an up lift in wages for carrying out compex work

Yes, but if things like gaining qualifications and pay uplifts aren't in your T&Cs then you will have little chance of getting anywhere, are you in a TU organisation?

 

[Dozer 73]

no TU not recognised , seem to follow WRA for a lot of issues , don't get me wrong it hasn't come up yet but know it will very shortly , and just wandering how other companies approach it

 

[Pete999]

no TU not recognised , seem to follow WRA for a lot of issues , don't get me wrong it hasn't come up yet but know it will very shortly , and just wandering how other companies approach it

What does your contract of employment say about training and work related qualifications?

 

[Dozer 73]

pretty sure this matter won't be covered in contract , don't get me wrong they are usually pretty good uplifts

 

[Cbuk2k2]

Always fills me with dread to see companies deciding to get into hazardous area work by putting guys through CompEX. It is intended as a competency assessment rather than a training exercise. To me it is similar to a plumbing company deciding they want to be electricians and putting some of their staff on an1 week electrical installation course.

 

[Dozer 73]

Always fills me with dread to see companies deciding to get into hazardous area work by putting guys through CompEX. It is intended as a competency assessment rather than a training exercise. To me it is similar to a plumbing company deciding they want to be electricians and putting some of their staff on an1 week electrical installation course.

Possibly true , but suppose every one/company has to start some where , but know where your coming from

 

[Cbuk2k2]

Personally I'd start by employing some guys with experience as Ex inspectors/installers. The regulations run to 1000's of pages and it's easy to misunderstand. Not questioning the electrical competence of these guys but it's alonst an entirely different trade.

 

[Dozer 73]

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Personally I'd start by employing some guys with experience as Ex inspectors/installers. The regulations run to 1000's of pages and it's easy to misunderstand. Not questioning the electrical competence of these guys but it's alonst an entirely different trade.

the company I work for are a big concern in the U.K. , also with pipeline company's in Australia and Canada , so sure they won't be entering this project half heartedly, usually we sub the instrumentation / m and e side out but have decided to build in house department to keep profits within the company (or losses) , I was just putting feelers out to see how other company's / electricians pay grade this specialist work
rsonally I'd start by employing some guys with experience as Ex inspectors/installers. The regulations run to 1000's of pages and it's easy to misunderstand. Not questioning the electrical competence of these guys but it's alonst an entirely different trade.

The company I work for are one of the big players in U.K. Also

 

[Cbuk2k2]

From personal experience it's very easy to lose your shirt. One of the hats I wear is witnessing comissining of equipment on behalf of third parties. It's quite common to have a representative of Lloyds of London or DNV present at least one independent consultant and 2 guys actually doing the loop checks etc which costs the client about £5000/day.

I was on a job about 2 years ago comissining a gas compressor. A relatively small player had provided fire and gas detection for it. It had all been installed and inspected when on about day 3 of the job the old grey beard doing the hands on bit noticed they hadn't fitted an IP washer on the 150 odd pair multi core terminated in an Exe box. The cable they had spent 3 days terminating beautifully had to be ripped out and the 10p washer fitted.

The DNV guy insisted that the fault be rectified and we repeat the past 3 days worth of checks. It was made clear that the extra £20k in labour and any other incurred costs from the over run would be back chargered to the little company that made the mistake.

Hence I tend to see using guys who do Ex work day in day out as good value.

 

[ajeebhamsa]

In Australia we are upgraded to Special Class.

The Compex here is called Hazardous Areas or EEHA.

Dear KennyKen, I am a CompEx Certified E&I Inspector since 2013 and now I am planning to migrate Australia . Is it CompEx is valid in Australia or are we need to do EEHA training certificate again ? Could you please inform me ?