Condition Report Questions

[akwoody2]

Morning,

Following issuing a condition report iv been asked to rectify all codes. Once done do i re-issue a condition report with nothing in the observations and add a side note to day its been rectified or do i reissue it with the observations with a side note saying all of the above has been rectified?

Also where circuits have been replace a EIC will be issued but do i also put the new figures onto the condition report?

Thanks

 

[westward10]

OK Tin hat on. The last time I was in this situation, I provided the client with a plain English, written statement of what the problems were, along with a quote for putting it right. I gave them the option of either just paying for the unsatisfactory EICR and getting other quotes for the work required, or accepting my quote for the remedial work. I then provided certs for the remedial work and a satisfactory EICR. A lot of customers are bamboozled by the EICR and just want things put right? As long as we don't seek to take advantage of the situation I don't see whats wrong with this, but I suppose some unscrupulous people might try and take advantage. I think charging for 2 EICR's and doing the work is taking the mick really, all they want at the end of it all is a cert that says "satisfactory", not one that says "unsatisfactory" with some others attached to it?

We have a client who does just that, test it, correct it and give me a satisfactory Report.

 

[The Ghost]

I agree @sparksburnout especially where in one case missing blanker, issued certificate then ran to wholesalers got an mcb filled blank. I mean really I would have felt like blakey from on the buses saying no sorry no can do gotta give you unsatisfactory report. Do the work then re-issue....purleeasse give me strength where has common sense gone. Ay yay yay!

 

[westward10]

I agree @sparksburnout especially where in one case missing blanker, issued certificate then ran to wholesalers got an mcb filled blank. I mean really I would have felt like blakey from on the buses saying no sorry no can do gotta give you unsatisfactory report. Do the work then re-issue....purleeasse give me strength where has common sense gone. Ay yay yay!

Probably not about common sense, he may have done the EICR then client later says can you put it right.

 

[Risteard]

I have to say that it isn't correct to reissue an EICR with "Satisfactory" written on it.

The correct way is an Unsatisfactory EICR followed by an EIC or MEIWC(s) detailing the issues rectified (citing the EICR if you want).

For another EICR to be issued should require another periodic inspection and test of the electrical installation - but there is no sensible reason for wanting this with "Satisfactory" written on it. The fact that the remedial work has been certified proves that it is safe and in fact that whatever work was done complies with BS 7671:2008 (2015) - something which the EICR wouldn't prove anyway.

 

[sparksburnout]

I have to say that it isn't correct to reissue an EICR with "Satisfactory" written on it.

The correct way is an Unsatisfactory EICR followed by an EIC or MEIWC(s) detailing the issues rectified (citing the EICR if you want).

For another EICR to be issued should require another periodic inspection and test of the electrical installation - but there is no sensible reason for wanting this with "Satisfactory" written on it. The fact that the remedial work has been certified proves that it is safe and in fact that whatever work was done complies with BS 7671:2008 (2015) - something which the EICR wouldn't prove anyway.

You try telling that to some 18 year old with half a brain in a letting agents office.

 

[ferg]

I've just done 2 properties where all they wanted was a satisfactory report.

Did the remedials as I was going along and issued satisfactory certs.

Otherwise I do what burnout does.

Common sense has to prevail at some point.

 

[Dave OCD]

This is exactly what I do, nearly every time. Makes much more sense and you leave behind a safe installation and [hopefully] a happy customer.

 

[7029 dave]

Reading the op, that's fine if you are the person who has identified issues, agreed remedial's then signed a satisfactory EICR. Different story if somebody else comes in. Eg mot test failed (seek second opinion) , go to the next station, you will pay another test fee.

 

[akwoody2]

Sorry, not sure if my original post confused some of you. When I say reissue EICR I don't mean carry out another EICR and charge again, I mean rewrite the original certificate without the codes and new results (r1 + r2, rcd test etc) for work carried out to rectify faults along with issuing EICs where necessary

 

[westward10]

I think the time scale between the initial and later EICRs need taking into consideration as to whether a retest is required.

 

[akwoody2]

I think the time scale between the initial and later EICRs need taking into consideration as to whether a retest is required.

Agree, in my situation everything is completed within 3 weeks

 

[Risteard]

Did the remedials as I was going along and issued satisfactory certs.

An EICR is not a cert, though. Did you actually certify the work you carried out as required by BS7671?

 

[Risteard]

Sorry, not sure if my original post confused some of you. When I say reissue EICR I don't mean carry out another EICR and charge again, I mean rewrite the original certificate without the codes and new results (r1 + r2, rcd test etc) for work carried out to rectify faults

That really isn't the correct way for it to be done, however.

 

[akwoody2]

That really isn't the correct way for it to be done, however.

That's the reason for the post, how would you go about it?

 

[akwoody2]

That really isn't the correct way for it to be done, however.

Again I'll ask you, how would you go about it?