Condu-lok , the evolution of fitting tube

[loz2754]

The 'thread' is literally there to attach the box to the tube. Once the conduit is up on the wall there is no difference between a threaded connection Vs a Grub screw connection.

I can see that con-lok conduit has its uses.
I would like to know though how it compares in terms of IP rating for external use.

 

[ipf]

I know lots of old time sparks who hated wagos when they first came over and they said would never use them as they didn't trust them... Guess what , they all use wagos now

One thing for sure, I rated the Wago levers from the first time I saw them.

It may be a quicker, cheaper way of installing conduit. What I'm saying is that, certainly in most industrial situations, it falls well short of threaded conduit. When installing many machines, the conduit system basically becomes part of the structure.
If you want to use it as a quick way to hide cables, fair enough.

 

[Dustydazzler]

One thing for sure, I rated the Wago levers from the first time I saw them.

It may be a quicker, cheaper way of installing conduit. What I'm saying is that, certainly in most industrial situations, it falls well short of threaded conduit. When installing many machines, the conduit system basically becomes part of the structure.
If you want to use it as a quick way to hide cables, fair enough.

I still don't see how if installed correctly with the boxes fixed to the wall and conduit fixed in place with saddles how a grub screw securing the box to the tube is inferior to a thread.
The thread is literally just there to keep the box on the tube

 

[Dustydazzler]

Americans & Canadians have been using this technology for decades and its so much faster and easier to use

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[LastManOnline]

Is it thou ?

When I stated it as been "inferior" I should have been a little more specific.The arguments I hear over here arecthat the metallic bond in a threaded system is better that the "grub screw" system.Thats a point I am willing to accept.As stated in my earlier post though,it's no longer a pertinent point as we no longer use the metal as the CPC.
Overall I consider the "Conlok" system a superior product and a "no brainer "really

 

[ipf]

I still don't see how if installed correctly with the boxes fixed to the wall and conduit fixed in place with saddles how a grub screw securing the box to the tube is inferior to a thread.
The thread is literally just there to keep the box on the tube

What if it's not fixed to the wall....dropping down from trunking or out from a wall to a machine?
There are all sorts of situations where it would be inferior. It's simply not as strong and more easily open to damage.
If you can't see it, fair enough.

 

[Dustydazzler]

What if it's not fixed to the wall....dropping down from trunking or out from a wall to a machine?
There are all sorts of situations where it would be inferior. It's simply not as strong and more easily open to damage.
If you can't see it, fair enough.

I get that , and that is why there will always be the very odd occasion where you need to thread on a box but in my experience I could use condu-lok 99% of the time with no issue what so ever

 

[LastManOnline]

I know lots of old time sparks who hated wagos when they first came over and they said would never use them as they didn't trust them... Guess what , they all use wagos now

Good analogy.Change takes time.Heres my experience with the Wago.

First impression.."no brainer".imported them from the continent. Unavailable here.
In late 1990,s an engineer reported me to the regulatory body for carrying out installations according to "continental standards".During the investigation it transpires I was one of 2 sparks using them in ROI.Am cleared of wrongdoing. Early 2000,s persuaded my wholesaler to stock them.They did for 2 years but no one bought them except me.."too expensive". Mid 2000,s , I,m back to importing them from continent.Late 2000,s you can literally get them them at the corner shop..happy days!

 

[nicebutdim]

I would like to know though how it compares in terms of IP rating for external use.

This is a question I'd also like to know the answer to, although I assume it doesn't compare without the application of some form of gunk. While I can see clear advantages, IP rating isn't one of them

 

[Dustydazzler]

This is a question I'd also like to know the answer to, although I assume it doesn't compare with the application of some form of gunk. While I can see clear advantages, IP rating isn't one of them

My guess is its designed for internal / covered areas

 

[LewisM]

Can be used outside but you have to use silicone or equivalent round the spout

 

[Dustydazzler]

Sealing around spout with a dob of mastic is certainly a good idea if there is any risk of water ingress , but if you were to install a load on condu-lok stuff outside I would like to think there was a purpose made gasket or something to pop in the entry to stop water getting inside...

 

[SparkySy]

I can see advantages with using it for speed, I think sikaflex or similar would be a good sealant if they don't make an IP rated adaptor.
Can this tube be threaded like standard conduit, I take it the external dimensions are the same? If so you could do any external fittings with standard and cross to condu lok inside!
Anyone got a link to the website my phone is only bringing up suppliers?
Sy

 

[snowhead]

Anyone got a link to the website my phone is only bringing up suppliers?
Sy

It's manufactured by Demoncato (no website) who also produce Rapidsaddle and Rollatray

Which is owned by Metpro, StackPath - https://www.metpro.co.uk/category/conlok

There's more info on this suppliers site than there is on Metpro,
20mm CONLOK (Non Threaded) Galvanised Conduit Fittings | CONLOK - Electrical Ironmongery - https://www.electricalironmongery.co.uk/product/20mm-conlok-non-threaded-galvanised-conduit-fittings/

 

[SparkySy]

That's answered a few questions, thanks for the links @snowhead !