Confused which one? ATL OLCI which code for city & guilds?

[Deleted member 71706]

Have looked at ATL, but some seem quite negative towards them so have decided to go with OCLI

Thing is I am reading lots of different codes from different dated post and just want to make sure I am about to head down the right route. Can not get this wrong as I am retraining as I am fed up with teaching and all the unwanted stress of it... any way.

OLCI-Course offered is:
Become a fully qualified electrician
City & Guilds 2357 Level 3 Diploma in Installing Electrotechnical Systems and Equipment (Buildings, Structures and the Environment) incorporating 2365 Level 2 and Level 3 Diplomas in Electrotechnical Installations (Buildings and Structures)

http://www.olci.info/electrical-training-courses.html

This is going to be a big investment for me and just need to make sure this will give me everything that I need to be able to install, test and pass my own work in a domestic, industrial or commercial environment. I will be self employed, really looking forward to a career change and just don't want to end up at the end with a mickey mouse qualification or one that only allows me to do part of what i want to do.

Any help appreciated, Don.

 

[cotty]

Thank you for the positive reply cotty. Going down the self employed route as I have been before a few years ago and certainly aware its not going to be easy or guaranteed to get any work. If there is one thing I do its work hard and know my stuff.

Whatever you do DON'T touch ATL with a barge pole!!

A lot of bad things being said from people on their courses! Some of their training centre's have closed down aswell.

I don't want you losing valuable hard earned cash to be ripped off!

 

[robbalaar86]

You are kind of misunderstanding my point of view.

I ploughed 4 years of my life into an apprenticeship for the 5 week boys to come and take the absolute pee out of my apprenticeship. The fact you are not a 5 weeker is neither here nor there as my point is aimed at the wonder courses.

Earlier today some chap had done a part p course ( whatever that is) and was looking to test an installation but had no idea as to what certs he should be filling in. So your telling me he's getting paid proper money?
If he is I want to know why and how.

I've got nothing against anyone doing it properly but these courses are killing off any chance of a 16 year old securing an apprenticeship. I fear for the future of the industry and the youth that actually want to get on in life.

As they say "that's life"

 

[Deleted member 71706]

Cheers Cotty, have done my homework and ATL aren't sounding very good. Cheesy sales men and to many carrots dangled along with negative feedback about them it has got the alarm bells ringing.

 

[brucelee]

Look into college route during evenings around your work commitments

I have done all 3 routes in my Time the Old apprenticeships were the best only wish i had completed mine anyway after years carying out work on site with no quals decided go the rip off fast course for 4 k got 6 weeks training theory and practical MEGGER 1552 some hand tools and regs , OSG etc 2382-10 2377, 2393 and logic full scope and defined scopes level A, B and C award complete ripoff really but you live and learn, Then upon realising not many employers would touch me with basic quals 2391-10 8 weeks evening course and passed first time only 4 of the 10 that was on the course did then 2330 evenings which wasnt all it was cracked up to be not a patch on old apprenticeships but i received Highest marks in all due to studying non stop for duration of the course same as i had done for 2391 and also completed NVQ 2356 lv3 By completing works voluntary for a firm near me and also by carrying out work for family for free and paying to be registered with ELECSA whcih I am on my 3rd year and received a A in all assessments so far fingers crossed and recently applied and received A JIB Gold card only took me 26yrs since my apprenticeship lol
At the end of the day the whole set up is in a mess there should be one set of quals for all regardless of age or circumstance wether this is done via open learning, college apprenticship or private course

fast track courses are jsut that fast teach you a lot of theory in short time but with limited practical
college eveninngs isnt as good as old apprenticeships lot of theory not much practical again
the most ideal route is an apprenticeship as you will get on site learning but if your not 16-18 dont hold much hope of you doing that

either way it will cost you thousands now especially as there is no help towards funding anymore and a good few years before you even start to earn any of your money back and will be a lot more time than 6 weeks thats jsut the beginning

probably best trying another trade like plumbing as they seem to earn more these days than anyone

I considered able skills in dartford amongst others
but as i live up north wasnt a viable ption plus I am a carer for my mrs who was left disabled after an operation resulting in both of us having to give up work

since that time i begged anyone inc Jobcentre to help with training , funding or advice and there was none we have paid for everything i have done and beleive me wasnt easy choice but unless you want me living off yor taxes for ever more then surely its better I try to get the relevent quals to work and pay my own way in this worls as we always did before hte mrs OP Not everyones circumstances are the same and life isnt planned out we make choices and have to deal with consequences or our decisions

good luck whatever you decide

I took the options available to me at the time after much research

 

[Johnuk]

see it as this, Electrical Trainee can never progress on to industrial and so on without doing what any apprentice has done nvq lvl 3

 

[cotty]

Cheers Cotty, have done my homework and ATL aren't sounding very good. Cheesy sales men and to many carrots dangled along with negative feedback about them it has got the alarm bells ringing.

Apprentice firm goes bust with debts of £6m (From Daily Echo)