Conservatory lighting

[dannyG85]

Hi, got a job to connect up some new spotlights in a conservatory. Roof has been replaced and plaster boarded. I'm assuming insulation has also be installed.

Originally the client purchased Enlite Spryte non-fire rated IP44 LED downlights, however I thought that they should be fire rated as they are being recessed into the ceiling, so after a bit of research I found an equivalent model by Lap (CosmoEco - link below). Have been told space is restricted so these were the shallowest ones I could find.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-cosm...0v/6570x#product_additional_details_container

These are fire rated but only have an IP rating of IP20. Would this be suitable in a conservatory? Obviously it isn't a bathroom so usually this IP rating wouldn't usually be an issue I would assume, but as its a conservatory roof could that be a problem?

 

[Squid]

Out of interest, if a fire was to break out in the conservatory, what do you anticipate your fire rated Downlights will achieve?

Unless there are some mice living up there to save.....

Hopefully burning down the conservatory as then they can build a proper extension.

 

[telectrix]

you can cover JCC V50's with insulation.

 

[davesparks]

At the end of the day I'm fitting fire rated downlights which I think is sensible and gives me peace of mind.

If you want to fit fire rated fittings where they aren't needed because it makes you feel better then that's no problem, as long as you actually understand the regulations and requirements for fire ratings. Otherwise you could end up in a situation where you are telling a customer they can't have non-fire rated fittings they have supplied and then ripping them off by insisting on fitting something else.

The other danger of not understanding is you could fit fire rated downlights where they aren't necessarily needed and go on to completely miss other parts of an installation where you do need to maintain a fire rating and thus create a dangerous situation.

 

[davesparks]

At the end of the day I'm fitting fire rated downlights which I think is sensible and gives me peace of mind.

If you want to fit fire rated fittings where they aren't needed because it makes you feel better then that's no problem, as long as you actually understand the regulations and requirements for fire ratings. Otherwise you could end up in a situation where you are telling a customer they can't have non-fire rated fittings they have supplied and then ripping them off by insisting on fitting something else.

The other danger of not understanding is you could fit fire rated downlights where they aren't necessarily needed and go on to completely miss other parts of an installation where you do need to maintain a fire rating and thus create a dangerous situation.

 

[MDJ]

Personally I thought the OP asked a sensible question, I wouldn’t for one minute call him a muppet, I have seen far worse questions asked, fair play for him to ask IMHO, he has been answered by a couple of the replies, cannot believe I am saying this but be gentle with the guy lads, he has done no wrong, muppets police out

 

[Jjc]

Hi, got a job to connect up some new spotlights in a conservatory. Roof has been replaced and plaster boarded. I'm assuming insulation has also be installed.

Originally the client purchased Enlite Spryte non-fire rated IP44 LED downlights, however I thought that they should be fire rated as they are being recessed into the ceiling, so after a bit of research I found an equivalent model by Lap (CosmoEco - link below). Have been told space is restricted so these were the shallowest ones I could find.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-cosm...0v/6570x#product_additional_details_container

These are fire rated but only have an IP rating of IP20. Would this be suitable in a conservatory? Obviously it isn't a bathroom so usually this IP rating wouldn't usually be an issue I would assume, but as its a conservatory roof could that be a problem?

Unusual to fit downlights into a roof. I take it that you mean ceiling.