Cooker connected to unfused connection unit with 6mm twin and earth

[Taylortwocities]

Are you carrying out an EICR?

The million house thing also applies to installations wired to the 14th Edition and earlier

And other editions. Regulations are not retrospective and items on an installation that met the 14th at the time of installation can only be coded C3 unless there is actual danger present NOW and there isn't

I suppose that being fed through RCD will protect the cable from damage through flexing

How can it protect the cable??
Look, go to an electrical wholesalers and buy a couple of metres of HR flex. How hard can it be?
If you put an RCD in circuit you are then using an RCD as a method of basic protection. What does your regs book say about that?
It says that RCDs are not recognised as a sole means of protection......

 

[oracle]

Look I'm sorry I asked! All I was doing was a PAT test so I gave it a code 3 anyway. I have since contacted the housing agency and I said that it needed improvement and they took the same view as you guys.

I just don't like that the cable is strained every time they clean, and being pressed between the cooker and wall may be subjecting the cable to heat greater than 70 © temperature when the cooker is hot.

I just didn't like it but couldn't find any definitive ruling in my favour, Regs or Cop. Did they ever say why the cooker in the Grenfell building caught fire ?

 

[Pete999]

Look I'm sorry I asked! All I was doing was a PAT test so I gave it a code 3 anyway. I have since contacted the housing agency and I said that it needed improvement and they took the same view as you guys.

I just don't like that the cable is strained every time they clean, and being pressed between the cooker and wall may be subjecting the cable to heat greater than 70 © temperature when the cooker is hot.

I just didn't like it but couldn't find any definitive ruling in my favour, Regs or Cop. Did they ever say why the cooker in the Grenfell building caught fire ?

It was a Fridge wasn't it?

 

[Spoon]

It was a Fridge wasn't it?

Cooker mate... see title and OP's first post.

 

[Pete999]

I realize it's overkill going code 1 but they wouldn't pay for anything that wasn't.

The million house thing also applies to installations wired to the 14th Edition and earlier

I suppose that being fed through RCD will protect the cable from damage through flexing

What this sort of flexing, what a load of carp.

Dorks doesn't really cut it does it, Worlds gone stupid, other words would be more suitable but I don't want a ban.

 

[westward10]

You are PATesting, have you been asked to test the cookers and why Code them for a PATest.

 

[Pete999]

Cooker mate... see title and OP's first post.

Post 17 he is intimating that the fire was caused by a cooker, I thaught it was a fridge that caused it, or have I missed something?

 

[Pete999]

You are PATesting, have you been asked to test the cookers and why Code them for a PATest.

Could be he is not sure what the difference between an EICR or Pat testing is.

 

[westward10]

That's like not knowing the difference between hot and cold.

 

[Spoon]

Post 17 he is intimating that the fire was caused by a cooker, I thaught it was a fridge that caused it, or have I missed something?

Sorry mate. misread your post. Thought you was on about what the OP was testing....

 

[oracle]

I should have explained it better. I use the code 1 to 3 on my PAT certificate for any equipment hard wired to the installation as I safely isolate the cooker circuit at the CCU then test the entire circuit supplying the appliance in this case a cooker.

This I do when there is no evidence of the installation ever having been tested. I have found from time to time that the appliance is good but the supply is faulty.

This has led to me getting an EICR and remedial work out of what would have been a simple PAT test. And, yes I do know the difference between hot and cold. The hot tap is on the left and the cold is on the right

 

[Octopus]

This has led to me getting an EICR and remedial work out of what would have been a simple PAT test. And, yes I do know the difference between hot and cold. The hot tap is on the left and the cold is on the right

Hum............ dubious tactics if you ask me.

 

[Adam W]

I get that the cable isn't ideal, but if the housing association get wind of the idea that you're coding things as C1 to chivvy them into action then they'll just start taking C1s with a pinch of salt, meaning genuinely serious issues could be overlooked - boy who cried wolf.

 

[oracle]

You're missing the point. I didn't do a C1, I made it a C 3 on an additional line on my PAT certificate. Please read the thread in context before responding inappropriately.

Regarding dubious tactics what's dubious about giving them more than they are paying for by including the supply in the test.

Motivating an EICR for an installation that shows no evidence of previous testing is acceptable, especially if one circuit has already been proven faulty.

I'm not a jobsworthy sticker jockey, I try to take a responsible approach to testing, whether appliances or installations

 

[Nigel]

Could be he is not sure what the difference between an EICR or Pat testing is.

All appliances fall under COPIITEE including cookers.