kirstie Archer
DIY
Background: I have a ex council 1st floor flat that I bought, I moved in to care for my disabled mum and so rented the flat as I could not do enough hours work and care.
I was told I am a kind landlord and when asked to do things I will jump immediately as I would not like my tenant to have a problem. The tenant was found by an agent who is initially the main point of contact for medical reasons on my part. However, after a bad expereince of a not so good professional suggested by them. I have used my preferred sparky and plumber and I book them to do the certificates and checks and services. However, my lovely sparky retired 2 years ago and is NOT NIC registered anymore.
I was sent a letter back in March stating the new laws means I needed an EICR satisfactory report done on the flat ASAP as I am renting my flat out. (Then COVID hit)
Anyway, I finally booked a company online 'Landlord Certificates' to do the test and today I have received a very technical report 8 pages long with two other booklets with codes in that I am beside myself with worry over and do not understand but they have pointed out a C2 which means danger and said because of that even the C3's must be put right by law.
Please please could anyone help me to explain what these mean as I truly do not fully understand them so I know what the issue is and then what I need to do as in work (of course a Sparky). I would also be grateful for a guide price to as I think I may need to go to get a loan.
On the reports it has 4 items unsatisfactory:
1. 4.11a The consumer unit has no circuits chart - C3 (Consumer Unit)
2. 5.11 C The consumer unit has no RCD for additional protection for cables installed in walls and partition with a depth less than 50mm. - C3 (Consumer Unit)
3. 8.4 Absence of supplementary bonding where required in a location containing a bath or shower, where all final circuits of the location comply with the requirements of Regulation 4.11 3.2 for automatic disconnection and all final circuits of the location have additional protection by means of a 30mA RCD and all extraneous-conductive parts of the loca C2 (Bathroom)
4. The consumer unit is made from combustible material does not comply with the 18th edition of the wiring regulations - C3 (Consumer Unit)
I know my consumer unit is made of the cream coloured plastic.
The bathroom when it was installed 4 years ago, they put 6mm bonding in as I emailed to check with my retired sparky.
He did say the panels can be removed to see pipes, it just needs to be unscrewed and the bath to be careful so they do not crack the panel on the bath. However, he did advise as he is no longer in the game to get advice from a Electrical forum in the first instance as people will explain it in different ways which might make it easier to understand. (He also said to be careful that there are lots doing this 'certificate' and ripping you off, which has of course worried me even more in my situation.
I am beside myself, since renting I have not raised the rent, 4 years, I am the cheapest in my estate but I know that my tenant is a kind man and does a manual job and I did not rent my flat to profit it was so the flat pays for itself as in the mortgage and bills and had a person living in it rather than empty and at risk. However these last two years there has been more and more certificates I am being told must be done yearly which is quite expensive.
To add insult to injury I was told only yesterday I am being laid off and now have that, which looking on here under consumer units, there was a lot of people talking about what they charge and some saying I charge £45 per hour because they can afford it and commenting on what people are paid e.g. newspaper boy £9.00. Consumer units being £200 to buy but charging £1,000. I am beside myself honestly.
It is not just young people who struggle to make a living, as a carer we get £9.59p per hour and have to do long days, very manual intensive and hard providing care for elderly, vulerable, frail, ill, some beat you black and blue as they do not realise you are trying to help, we do courses and have qualifications for medication/first aid/life saving skills as well as others, I wish the job was appreciated and paid better but sadly it is not and not appreciated and for most until you need a carer for a relative you do not think of them as educated and hard working.
Sorry everyone, you can probably tell I am very emotional and worried and upset by it.
I was told I am a kind landlord and when asked to do things I will jump immediately as I would not like my tenant to have a problem. The tenant was found by an agent who is initially the main point of contact for medical reasons on my part. However, after a bad expereince of a not so good professional suggested by them. I have used my preferred sparky and plumber and I book them to do the certificates and checks and services. However, my lovely sparky retired 2 years ago and is NOT NIC registered anymore.
I was sent a letter back in March stating the new laws means I needed an EICR satisfactory report done on the flat ASAP as I am renting my flat out. (Then COVID hit)
Anyway, I finally booked a company online 'Landlord Certificates' to do the test and today I have received a very technical report 8 pages long with two other booklets with codes in that I am beside myself with worry over and do not understand but they have pointed out a C2 which means danger and said because of that even the C3's must be put right by law.
Please please could anyone help me to explain what these mean as I truly do not fully understand them so I know what the issue is and then what I need to do as in work (of course a Sparky). I would also be grateful for a guide price to as I think I may need to go to get a loan.
On the reports it has 4 items unsatisfactory:
1. 4.11a The consumer unit has no circuits chart - C3 (Consumer Unit)
2. 5.11 C The consumer unit has no RCD for additional protection for cables installed in walls and partition with a depth less than 50mm. - C3 (Consumer Unit)
3. 8.4 Absence of supplementary bonding where required in a location containing a bath or shower, where all final circuits of the location comply with the requirements of Regulation 4.11 3.2 for automatic disconnection and all final circuits of the location have additional protection by means of a 30mA RCD and all extraneous-conductive parts of the loca C2 (Bathroom)
4. The consumer unit is made from combustible material does not comply with the 18th edition of the wiring regulations - C3 (Consumer Unit)
I know my consumer unit is made of the cream coloured plastic.
The bathroom when it was installed 4 years ago, they put 6mm bonding in as I emailed to check with my retired sparky.
He did say the panels can be removed to see pipes, it just needs to be unscrewed and the bath to be careful so they do not crack the panel on the bath. However, he did advise as he is no longer in the game to get advice from a Electrical forum in the first instance as people will explain it in different ways which might make it easier to understand. (He also said to be careful that there are lots doing this 'certificate' and ripping you off, which has of course worried me even more in my situation.
I am beside myself, since renting I have not raised the rent, 4 years, I am the cheapest in my estate but I know that my tenant is a kind man and does a manual job and I did not rent my flat to profit it was so the flat pays for itself as in the mortgage and bills and had a person living in it rather than empty and at risk. However these last two years there has been more and more certificates I am being told must be done yearly which is quite expensive.
To add insult to injury I was told only yesterday I am being laid off and now have that, which looking on here under consumer units, there was a lot of people talking about what they charge and some saying I charge £45 per hour because they can afford it and commenting on what people are paid e.g. newspaper boy £9.00. Consumer units being £200 to buy but charging £1,000. I am beside myself honestly.
It is not just young people who struggle to make a living, as a carer we get £9.59p per hour and have to do long days, very manual intensive and hard providing care for elderly, vulerable, frail, ill, some beat you black and blue as they do not realise you are trying to help, we do courses and have qualifications for medication/first aid/life saving skills as well as others, I wish the job was appreciated and paid better but sadly it is not and not appreciated and for most until you need a carer for a relative you do not think of them as educated and hard working.
Sorry everyone, you can probably tell I am very emotional and worried and upset by it.
still makes me feel sick 
they then notify me and tell me not to answer on old threads.
