Crazy cable price rises

[Algarve Sparky]

The cable price rises here in Portugal are just plain mad, we use a lot of different cables but 4.00 mm singles ..OMG !

Look at the attached pictures, the same three drums of 4.0 mm cable purchased

1) January €126 for all three with tax.

2) 2 months later €155

for all three with tax.​

for all three with tax.

3)7 month later €210

for all three with tax.​

for all three with tax.

At one point when we were getting quotes on long runs of cable such as 10 mm or 16 mm 5 core the supplier would only give us a 2 day price guarantee !

Quoting rewires now is a challenge, have to make it clear about rising prices and not to delay on locking in the material cost.

How is it in the UK ??

 

[Dustydazzler]

If I were quoting jobs in that market place I would only be holding the price for 7 days

Cable prices are high in the uk compared to say 10 years ago but atleast they are fairly stable and when they do go up it tends only to be by a pound or two on a drum

 

[Dustydazzler]

Just looked at my wholesalers prices and Your prices are not that crazy high compared to ours

I would pay about £49 inc tax for 100M of 4mm single cable which converted to Euros would be about 55 euros ish

so 3 rolls would be in the 160-170 euro ball park

6491X Single Core Cable - 1.5mm, 2.5mm, and 4mm

 

[mattg4321]

Cable has risen significantly in cost this year in the U.K.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Cable has risen significantly in cost this year in the U.K.

Really ? I have been buying my cable mainly from screwfix (last 7 or 8 months) and its only gone up by pence here and there. Twin n earth has been same price for the last 5 months from my local Screwfix

 

[Pretty Mouth]

I bought 100m of doncaster 2.5mm T+E back in january for £55. Now £78.50. Definitely gone up a bit this year

 

[Dustydazzler]

Screwfix have had 2.5 prysmain 100m rolls at £71.50 inc vat since around June

I know wholesalers do tend to mess about with their twin and earth prices much more frequently hence I decided to use screwfix this year. prices seem to be very consistent

 

[mattg4321]

Really ? I have been buying my cable mainly from screwfix (last 7 or 8 months) and its only gone up by pence here and there. Twin n earth has been same price for the last 5 months from my local Screwfix

How much you paying now?

I’ve gone from £39+Vat to £61+vat this year on 2.5 t&e

 

[Dustydazzler]

I think the 50 quid + vat was the last drum I must have got from my wholesalers at the start of the year so just over 60 quid inc vat

Only paying 70 quid inc vat from screwfix the past 6 ish months so a tenner more than a year ago

I did expect prices to jump up more but screwfix have seemed to hold their cable price steady the last 6 months

not sure about the wholesalers as i dont use them for cable anymore

 

[nicebutdim]

Copper has a market value. I'd expect increases to have been roughly similar around the world.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I feel it's gone up quite a bit over the last year.
Roughly £60 in January to £70 in October (2.5mm T&E 100m). That's a 17% rise in 9 months!

 

[123]

I feel it's gone up quite a bit over the last year.
Roughly £60 in January to £70 in October (2.5mm T&E 100m). That's a 17% rise in 9 months!

For 2.5 T&E I was paying:
March 2020 £34+VAT (£40.80)
December 2020 £40+VAT (£48)
April 2021 £46.50+VAT (£55.80)

Haven't bought any since (too much stocked as it is!) and as per other thread I won't be doing so again, I'm on the right side of costs at the moment, and while I don't see prices coming down anytime soon it will come down again at some point. They seem to be somewhat more stable past few months than in the earlier part of the year

 

[LukeD]

Imagine been a Joiner.... hard woods prices went through the roof

 

[Dustydazzler]

I feel it's gone up quite a bit over the last year.
Roughly £60 in January to £70 in October (2.5mm T&E 100m). That's a 17% rise in 9 months!

But thankfully they have been stable for the past 5-6 months , £71 for 100m of 2.5 isn't too bad

I half expected it to reach 100 quid a roll by now but it hasn't yet

 

[Algarve Sparky]

Do not uses twin and earth here of course as all in tubes so singles and the odd 3 core flex at lights etc. Took me some time to get my head around that in domestics but more so that most Villas / homes have 3 phase mains in the quadro.

 

[MJPD29]

The cable price rises here in Portugal are just plain mad, we use a lot of different cables but 4.00 mm singles ..OMG !

Look at the attached pictures, the same three drums of 4.0 mm cable purchased

1) January €126 for all three with tax.

2) 2 months later €155

for all three with tax.​

for all three with tax.

3)7 month later €210

for all three with tax.​

for all three with tax.

At one point when we were getting quotes on long runs of cable such as 10 mm or 16 mm 5 core the supplier would only give us a 2 day price guarantee !

Quoting rewires now is a challenge, have to make it clear about rising prices and not to delay on locking in the material cost.

How is it in the UK ??

Cef here were only holding a quote on cable for 24 hours a couple of weeks ago. Not sure if it's still that way now.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Screwfix puts up Prysmain cable price up 10%

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/prysmian-6242y-grey-2-5mm-twin-earth-cable-100m-drum/20967

 

[SparkySy]

It's getting more expensive for all materials across the board!
It looks like we are heading for another copper crisis (and not just copper steel aluminium ect) later this year as raw material extraction all but stopped due to covid and still hasn't come close to catching up with demand!
Sooo I'm keeping all my offcuts and buying a huge box of wagos!

 

[Dustydazzler]

My brother in law is a landscaper and some of his material prices have gone up 25-30% , even things like wooden posts and exterior grade wood has gone up in price massively

 

[Dustydazzler]

It's getting more expensive for all materials across the board!
It looks like we are heading for another copper crisis (and not just copper steel aluminium ect) later this year as raw material extraction all but stopped due to covid and still hasn't come close to catching up with demand!
Sooo I'm keeping all my offcuts and buying a huge box of wagos!

I always use up my off cuts where possible , couple wagos in the loft and you can make 20m of cable out of 2 x 10m off cuts

Bell wire for lighting and 1.5 for sockets is the way forwards

 

[UNG]

Screwfix puts up Prysmain cable price up 10%

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/prysmian-6242y-grey-2-5mm-twin-earth-cable-100m-drum/20967

Got a heads up last week from one of the wholesalers I use that their cable prices will be increasing when they get their next stock cable order in

 

[Dustydazzler]

Got a heads up last week from one of the wholesalers I use that their cable prices will be increasing when they get their next stock cable order in

My local wholesaler is £88 + vat for 2.5 twin n earth

They can't get anywhere near Screwfix on Prymian

 

[pc1966]

Screwfix puts up Prysmain cable price up 10%

Also the note:
"Due to high demand we are limiting the number of items to a maximum of 30 per customer."

 

[pc1966]

My local wholesaler is £88 + vat for 2.5 twin n earth

They can't get anywhere near Screwfix on Prymian

Wonder if it is the scale of Screwfix/B&Q, or they are even selling at cost as loss-leader?

 

[mattg4321]

Need a new wholesaler at that price. Even CEF have it at 68+Vat on their website