Crazy cable price rises

[Algarve Sparky]

The cable price rises here in Portugal are just plain mad, we use a lot of different cables but 4.00 mm singles ..OMG !

Look at the attached pictures, the same three drums of 4.0 mm cable purchased

1) January €126 for all three with tax.

2) 2 months later €155

for all three with tax.​

for all three with tax.

3)7 month later €210

for all three with tax.​

for all three with tax.

At one point when we were getting quotes on long runs of cable such as 10 mm or 16 mm 5 core the supplier would only give us a 2 day price guarantee !

Quoting rewires now is a challenge, have to make it clear about rising prices and not to delay on locking in the material cost.

How is it in the UK ??

 

[Mike Johnson]

I do remember buying 2.5mm T&E at about £14.00 for 100M, and it was red and black and if I remember solid green, but like that reel of cable we are both now past our best before date.

 

[SJD]

I put a selection of prices I paid for reels of 2.5mm2 T&E into an Excel sheet over the last 8 or so years.

 

[LukeD]

I find Doncaster the nicest to work with . But prysmian the easiest to source from screwfix. I dont need to buy bulk and if I pay a extra £5 a roll ...the customer pays another £7-10 . I never lose out .

 

[Dustydazzler]

When I started out most sparks used Copper Cable Company or ABB Cable , probably as this is what the big wholesalers stocked like WF and Eddies who were the big hitters in my area back in the day.
Cable never came in a cardboard box , Not until Prysmain came about and then all the big wholesalers moved to Prysmain in the nice boxes

 

[UNG]

When I started out most sparks used Copper Cable Company or ABB Cable , probably as this is what the big wholesalers stocked like WF and Eddies who were the big hitters in my area back in the day.
Cable never came in a cardboard box , Not until Prysmain came about and then all the big wholesalers moved to Prysmain in the nice boxes

BICC were the biggest cable company at one time and were behind the booklet pricing of cables they also produced those handy Cables and Tables booklets and they if I remember correctly were the first to pack cable in boxes and called it Reelpac nearly all the "booklet" cables came in boxes at one time
Back then when cable went up a new booklet was printed and when it went down the discount went up, who remembers the late 80's when the booklet price of 2.5 T&E was closing £1200 / 100m and the discount was 98.5% on one large order we were given 99% discount by one wholesaler

 

[Dustydazzler]

BICC were the biggest cable company at one time and were behind the booklet pricing of cables they also produced those handy Cables and Tables booklets and they if I remember correctly were the first to pack cable in boxes and called it Reelpac nearly all the "booklet" cables came in boxes at one time
Back then when cable went up a new booklet was printed and when it went down the discount went up, who remembers the late 80's when the booklet price of 2.5 T&E was closing £1200 / 100m and the discount was 98.5% on one large order we were given 99% discount by one wholesaler

I remember me old WF invoices priced cable stupid like that

another stupid thing back then was 5 and 6 foot tubes , they are trade something stupid like £80 for one tube with a 97.5% discount

 

[pc1966]

another stupid thing back then was 5 and 6 foot tubes , they are trade something stupid like £80 for one tube with a 97.5% discount

I see that sort of thing on any Unitrunk stuff, disconuts of 80-90% off a stupidly inflated list price.

 

[pc1966]

I find Doncaster the nicest to work with . But prysmian the easiest to source from screwfix. I dont need to buy bulk and if I pay a extra £5 a roll ...the customer pays another £7-10 . I never lose out .

It used to be easy to get Doncaster from Toolstation but not so much now, I also quite like it.

Yesss ought to be the obvious place to get it, but I have also been fobbed off with some unknown brand cable from them before and not the Doncaster stuff advertised (was some 4C SWA, not T&E, not bought much of that).

 

[UNG]

It used to be easy to get Doncaster from Toolstation but not so much now, I also quite like it.

Yesss ought to be the obvious place to get it, but I have also been fobbed off with some unknown brand cable from them before and not the Doncaster stuff advertised (was some 4C SWA, not T&E, not bought much of that).

Only used Yesss a couple of times and probably never again the way they charge they are worse than CEF IMO for overcharging the last time I went into one of their branches I left the stuff on the counter and went elsewhere a bit further from the job and got the stuff for close to a third of the price Yesss were charging

 

[Dustydazzler]

YESSS are a rip off

CEF not much better

Screwfix is best for cable , screws etc & TLC for other stuff

 

[loz2754]

disconuts

I do love a disconut

 

[Dustydazzler]

I see inflation is running very high (9-10%) in some of the main copper producing countries (Chilie being the big one) , I am guessing this will soon be felt here in the Uk as in what a drum of cable costs ?

I am thinking for buying a couple dozen rolls of 1mm and 2.5mm t&e

 

[Dustydazzler]

Screwfix selling 2.5 prysmain for £72 inc vat at the moment , just stocked up on afew few rolls

 

[Dustydazzler]

I see Nick Bundy reckons 2.5 t&E will soon hit £100 per 100m drum (inc vat) soon

What do we reckon ? are we soon going to be wiring sockets in cable that cost £1 a metre

 

[kropaske]

Wickes have 2.5T&E for £71.50, if you have trade account with them it's £64.
I've recken prices will stabilise in the next 6 months or so. All this is just manufacturers try to get some profit back that has been lost because of the covid