Cutting corners or acceptable practice?

[Octopus]

Saw this today. Apologies for the carp photo.

Its the use of Wago's connecting the under cupboard lights!


Acceptable or not?

Personally I wouldn't do it!

 

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I would personally,fit two 100mm down-lighters in the bottom of that cupboard,just leave a couple of upturned breakfast bowls over them,inside the cupboard,just to see if that lady customer has a sense of humour...

My guess is,not...:freak:

 

[rapparee]

I wouldn't have that sort of strip lighting about me, it's crap. I'd rather go for the lights you plug into each other.

 

[Andy78]

It's very unlikely to get disturbed in practice, But I always do as Murdoch suggested and use a small JB screwed to the under side of the cupboard if there are to be connections under there.

 

[stevethesparks]

I find the led strips very good, maybe depends on what brand you purchase.

 

[yellowvanman]

All connections should be suitably enclosed (especially 12V ones) and I do not think a wago is suitably enclosed on its own.
If it were in a junction box then it would be OK.
I certainly would not crimp it, because there would be no option to easily replace the strip once it has failed.

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[sparksburnout]

I wouldn't have that sort of strip lighting about me, it's crap. I'd rather go for the lights you plug into each other.

Why is it crap? I have installed a couple of "floating" shelves in my kitchen, and rebated LED strip into them, routing the wiring through the shelf/wall. Even if I say it myself the result id nothing short of marvellous. If I knew how to do it I would upload a piccy. They can look a lot better than those old tubes if you do it properly!

 

[rapparee]

Ansell Lighting LED Under Cabinet Link Lights

Everyman to his own. If you had no pelmet to cover the shelves, i suppose you have to go that way, but i prefer the ones i've linked.

 

[sparksburnout]

There you are, snot crap is it??

 

[ruston]

View attachment 32204There you are, snot crap is it??

No , it is a very nice effect to be fair. Well done.

 

[Adam W]

From a technical aspect I suppose it's just about acceptable, although I would have:

• Soldered a longer tail on and run it straight to the driver, possibly in mini trunking
• Housed the LED tape in extrusion to give a sturdier fixing and a more professional look
• Used IP rated LED strip seeing as it's in a kitchen and there's likely to be steam and bits of food flying around - there's even evidence of this in the picture
• Mounted the LED tape closer to the front of the cabinet facing downwards to light the worktop, not just to create an effect.

Apart from that it's fine.

 

[sparksburnout]

From a technical aspect I suppose it's just about acceptable, although I would have:

• Soldered a longer tail on and run it straight to the driver, possibly in mini trunking
• Housed the LED tape in extrusion to give a sturdier fixing and a more professional look
• Used IP rated LED strip seeing as it's in a kitchen and there's likely to be steam and bits of food flying around - there's even evidence of this in the picture
• Mounted the LED tape closer to the front of the cabinet facing downwards to light the worktop, not just to create an effect.

Apart from that it's fine.

Yes can't argue with any of that, you can get IP rated strip that is covered in a waterproof gel, makes a terrible stink when you solder it though! You can also fix it into the very thin mini trunking to conceal it and it helps to get it nice and straight.

 

[Richard Burns]

Why does a 12V connection need to be "suitably enclosed"? If it is crimped, it is easy to chop through the crimp and then re-crimp it? I can't see why a wago is not OK, you can't see it and there is no danger, it's 12v ?

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Why 'especially the 12V ones' Richard? They are not a shock risk, the terminations may get quite hot, but I can't see how putting in a enclosure would help, although I could be on the wrong track.

12V connections tend to have higher currents than equivalent 230V and can spark badly on short circuits, for the reduction of fire risk it is best to enclose 12V connections.

Others
Fair enough on the crimps if you leave enough cable to re terminate, it is just more work later.

 

[Richard Burns]

Why is it crap? I have installed a couple of "floating" shelves in my kitchen, and rebated LED strip into them, routing the wiring through the shelf/wall. Even if I say it myself the result id nothing short of marvellous. If I knew how to do it I would upload a piccy. They can look a lot better than those old tubes if you do it properly!

I like that, that looks good, I am not sure I could be bothered to do it for a customer though!

 

[rapparee]

View attachment 32204There you are, snot crap is it??

No it's looking lovely

The light is actually continious. I've seen them before with the light looking a bit 'knobly' if you know what i mean.

 

[sparksburnout]

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12V connections tend to have higher currents than equivalent 230V and can spark badly on short circuits, for the reduction of fire risk it is best to enclose 12V connections.

Others
Fair enough on the crimps if you leave enough cable to re terminate, it is just more work later.

It's a 4 watt strip running off a 5W LED driver?? I bet I can't get a spark out of one of them if I try it tomorrow! I'll let you know..