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srl-8

Merry Xmas folks,

i have my elecsa assesment in 2 weeks time. Once through that, I have then completed my relevant courses and will be a certified domestic installer.

I do have more than just 2 weeks electrical knowedge though. I am also a qulified plumber, and have been installing domestic circuits for a while. (Having them checked by other certified people)

I will be lookiing for my own electrical jobs in the new year and wanted to get opinions on a suitable daily date for charge.?

So for a fully qulified (member of elecsa) part P domestic installer. What should my daily rate be?

All advice welcome...

thanks

Srl-8
 
If you have any queries Paul, feel free to contact admin.

To be brutally honest, I'm a little tired of your holier than thou attitude toward anyone you deem lower than your almighty self.

This forum is and always has been run in exactly the same way, A FRIENDLY PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO USE.

If you don't like it, as I said contact admin. Also, there are many other forums out there to use if you still feel unable to abide by our rules.
To be fair Lenny,as someone who is considered a real spark and is training to be an engineer in the real term you must be able to understand the concern of your trained spark to the influx of semi skilled labour into the industry under the guise of di like it means domestic installs deserves a lesser spark than a factory does
 
To be fair Lenny,as someone who is considered a real spark and is training to be an engineer in the real term you must be able to understand the concern of your trained spark to the influx of semi skilled labour into the industry under the guise of di like it means domestic installs deserves a lesser spark than a factory does


I understand, believe me I do.

But, this is meant to be a public forum for anyone associated with electrical work regardless of their ability to come and ask/share info.

This is the way it always has been and hopefully always will be. Imagine if it was a forum full of degree qualified engineers, what would they have to ask each other........

Of late I've noticed a number of members of this forum appear on other forums asking the same questions they've asked on here. The only difference being they quote "I asked this question on another forum but only recieved totally unhelpful & abusive replies" before the question.


I do not want to see this forum die a death, full of unfriendly & unhelpful members arguing with the mod team all the time. It's taken a long time & a lot of hard work to get where we as a forum are now and I really do not want to see that spoiled.

I can assure you Dan will like it even less.
 
It seems that the "real sparks" are not happy because DI's are snapping up a share of their work, DI's and are able to gain nationally regonised qulifications within 3 weeks or less..

I agree, a 3 week course, does not give you the experience required to be a good tradesman, however it is a good building block on which to grow.

I can see why, "real sparks" have such a low opinion of DI's...

We are thier competition it seems.... all fair game lads in my opinion.
 
I do not see why you felt the need to delete my post either , it was by no way meant in spite and was light hearted banter ?
Hence fuzzy giving me a like .

I do appreciate all of the efforts of all of the team that run this site , but do some times get a feeling that there is a " in crowd " .
Sorry for the moan .:rant:
 
It seems that the "real sparks" are not happy because DI's are snapping up a share of their work, DI's and are able to gain nationally regonised qulifications within 3 weeks or less..

I agree, a 3 week course, does not give you the experience required to be a good tradesman, however it is a good building block on which to grow.

I can see why, "real sparks" have such a low opinion of DI's...

We are thier competition it seems.... all fair game lads in my opinion.


On the other side of the coin, there is no need whatsoever to 'stoke the fire'!
 
I do not see why you felt the need to delete my post either , it was by no way meant in spite and was light hearted banter ?
Hence fuzzy giving me a like .

I do appreciate all of the efforts of all of the team that run this site , but do some times get a feeling that there is a " in crowd " .
Sorry for the moan .:rant:

As was mine which others obviously got.

Why not have an ask a question forum for members of the public? Which will attract serious answers as people will go there specifically to answer it, within the main forum its mixed up with (mostly) poorly executed trolls and "electricians" asking questions they really shouldn't be, hence the way most threads are answered as everyones bored of it all?
 
I do not see why you felt the need to delete my post either , it was by no way meant in spite and was light hearted banter ?
Hence fuzzy giving me a like .

I do appreciate all of the efforts of all of the team that run this site , but do some times get a feeling that there is a " in crowd " .
Sorry for the moan .:rant:


I can assure you there is no in crowd here.

We try and remain totally impartial at all times, it is however a difficult balance to strike particularly as I am an electrician myself & genuinely understand all the grievances aired on the forums.

I have to remain impartial, professional and, above all, fair at all times, imagine how difficult that can be!!!
 
Mattmoo1974 - Your right, but lucky for me I have other trades to offer, not just a spark (or DI, to be correct as not to offend anyone on this forum)

intresting, you should say that though. 1 re-wire a week and a few small lighting jobs, and thats not a bad "domestic" income...... im my opinion...
 
Agree Len,but sometimes with this part p 5 week wonder stuff the lunatics are Taking over the asylum. I've no problem with people wanting to be a spark,but how they do it I have a problem with its not the forums fault but the quick buck providers that are to blame and make it sound easy as long as you hand over all your money,
 
If you have any queries Paul, feel free to contact admin.

To be brutally honest, I'm a little tired of your holier than thou attitude toward anyone you deem lower than your almighty self.

This forum is and always has been run in exactly the same way, A FRIENDLY PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO USE.

If you don't like it, as I said contact admin. Also, there are many other forums out there to use if you still feel unable to abide by our rules.


Lenny,

This is NOTHING to do with how I deem people in relation to myself.
This is EVERYTHING to do with COMPETENCE in relation to statute law and accepted industry practice.
I am VERY disappointed with the way that this forum reinforces, allows, and perpetuates advice which goes against UK statute law and the relevant guidance and related standards, then hides behind their disclaimer, that is just so irresponsible, then members try to justify it.
It seems if anyone is prepared to speak out and support statute law and legislation in the UK, then they are lambasted.
I can't see how a forum with these sorts of principles is so successful, else I am reading things different to most others on here.
I have recently had to suffer a tirade of abuse from 2 members, both of which, whilst they may have worked at high levels of competence in the past in the UK, both admit, not to having done so in recent years.
One now seems retired, the other works abroad, and both have been in this situation for many years.
They both seem to lambaste the training in the UK< but, they are willing to advise anyone with any unknown level of competence to undertake any works that they feel competent to do themselves, they may be competent, but how do they KNOW on an internet forum the the OP is competent.
I get flamed for questioning this.
They don't know the site conditions or the competence of the OP, or ANY other aspects of the situation, but THEY feel that they can make definitive statements about the situation, that is incompetence.
Following their criticism of the training and competence situation in the UK they should BOTH know better.
I suspect that they do, but their ego's will not let them admit it.

I am told this is a friendly place. (Above)
It does not appear to be so unless you tow the forum line of meeting the forum attitude, which seems to be not that of UK statute law, standards and guidance on many matters, so HOW CAN I as a registered Professional Engineer go along with such advise, I am duty bound by my professional recognition, as are ANY OTHERS of you on here to pick up these errors and point these out.
I cannot see how the forum "rules" can insist upon giving advice which does not meet UK statute law, guidance and standards, though it seems this is becoming the way things are on here.

If you do not then you are not in compliance with the requirements of the membership of your professional institutes.
So any of you who are members of UK professional institutes and ignore or are complicit with some of the incompetent or incorrect advice given on this forum must realise that you are in breach of the terms of your membership of those said institutes.

Now I doubt that many will read this, as I suspect that it will be deleted and that I will be banned from the forum for speaking the truth, if this is so, then those of you who do get to read this post, please realise the "community" that you have joined and the level of "censorship" that you are submitted to.

I still cannot believe the way that this forum is moderated.
 
netblindpaul - some quick advice. stop being concerned about all the DI'd out their, and just crack on with your own work..

be you wish you had just given a normal responce to my question at the start of the thread....
 
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Lenny,

This is NOTHING to do with how I deem people in relation to myself.
This is EVERYTHING to do with COMPETENCE in relation to statute law and accepted industry practice.
I am VERY disappointed with the way that this forum reinforces, allows, and perpetuates advice which goes against UK statute law and the relevant guidance and related standards, then hides behind their disclaimer, that is just so irresponsible, then members try to justify it.
It seems if anyone is prepared to speak out and support statute law and legislation in the UK, then they are lambasted.
I can't see how a forum with these sorts of principles is so successful, else I am reading things different to most others on here.
I have recently had to suffer a tirade of abuse from 2 members, both of which, whilst they may have worked at high levels of competence in the past in the UK, both admit, not to having done so in recent years.
One now seems retired, the other works abroad, and both have been in this situation for many years.
They both seem to lambaste the training in the UK< but, they are willing to advise anyone with any unknown level of competence to undertake any works that they feel competent to do themselves, they may be competent, but how do they KNOW on an internet forum the the OP is competent.
I get flamed for questioning this.
They don't know the site conditions or the competence of the OP, or ANY other aspects of the situation, but THEY feel that they can make definitive statements about the situation, that is incompetence.
Following their criticism of the training and competence situation in the UK they should BOTH know better.
I suspect that they do, but their ego's will not let them admit it.

I am told this is a friendly place. (Above)
It does not appear to be so unless you tow the forum line of meeting the forum attitude, which seems to be not that of UK statute law, standards and guidance on many matters, so HOW CAN I as a registered Professional Engineer go along with such advise, I am duty bound by my professional recognition, as are ANY OTHERS of you on here to pick up these errors and point these out.
I cannot see how the forum "rules" can insist upon giving advice which does not meet UK statute law, guidance and standards, though it seems this is becoming the way things are on here.

If you do not then you are not in compliance with the requirements of the membership of your professional institutes.
So any of you who are members of UK professional institutes and ignore or are complicit with some of the incompetent or incorrect advice given on this forum must realise that you are in breach of the terms of your membership of those said institutes.

Now I doubt that many will read this, as I suspect that it will be deleted and that I will be banned from the forum for speaking the truth, if this is so, then those of you who do get to read this post, please realise the "community" that you have joined and the level of "censorship" that you are submitted to.

I still cannot believe the way that this forum is moderated.


Constructive criticism is 100% fine throughout. Resorting to calling people 'muppets' and belittling their very existance however is not.

No-one is for one minute advocating the submission of any sort of unsound info whatsoever. The point I make is rather than subject other members to a tirade of abuse that you so obviously yourself dislike when something you disagree with comes up, don't post anything and move on to the next or, supply helpful info in a constructive way.


Paul, if you have been subjected to abuse from other members, please hit the report post button so we can see it. I don't have eyes in the back of my head and physically cannot read through every post of every thread of every day.


I would also like to apologise for my earlier outburst regarding your character, sometimes things get too much for me to keep a lid on.


As for the way I mod the forums, as I said if you have an issue, please contact admin.
 
srl-8,
Not really worried about my original response and I would post the same again, and again.

Please don't joke about medical conditions you have no ****ing ideas about these things trust me.
Just shut the **** up about them before you poke fun at others, as that is really lower than low.
 

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