deemed works not acceptable

[telectrix]

Fight Fight Fight lol

i'll call your lollipop and raise you a candyfloss.

 

[happysteve]

i'll call your lollipop and raise you a candyfloss.

I reckon the next thing up would be a kebab?

So: "standard" lollipop circuit (6mm from the OCPD to a joint box, then standard RFC in 2.5mm), with one of Essex's 4mm spurs off that.

 

[Spoon]

I can feel the love and joy overflowing in this thread..

 

[happysteve]

Lollipop:
OCPD ----O

Inverse lollipop:
OCPD O----

Kebab:
OCPD ----O----

Maybe we can just carry on...?

????
OCPD ----O----O---- ...

 

[MDJ]

Dillb and Essex have been at each other all week lol, there just has to be a fight chuckle, I think they should start an insult thread in the arms and go for each other at our complete pleasure pmsl lol.

 

[Nigel]

Are you talking about an inverse lollipop circuit?

I wouldn't.

Literally no idea what you mean.

 

[Nigel]

I reckon the next thing up would be a kebab?

So: "standard" lollipop circuit (6mm from the OCPD to a joint box, then standard RFC in 2.5mm), with one of Essex's 4mm spurs off that.

No that is not what I meant.

A standard 2.5mm ring with a spur wired in 4mm.

 

[Nigel]

Dillb and Essex have been at each other all week lol, there just has to be a fight chuckle, I think they should start an insult thread in the arms and go for each other at our complete pleasure pmsl lol.

No issues as far as I am concerned. For some reason which I can only put down to homosexual urges, Dill seems to be tracking my posts and replying with silly replies in a vain attempt to make him seem smart and for me to seem stupid.

This has failed everytime. Maybe now he has learnt.

 

[Pete999]

thanks for your response.
Where's does it say it isn't compliant to take two sockets off the existing socket?
is it ok to use flex?
should I have a certificate signed by registered person?

ive paid a 33% deposit

hoitytoity, you asked the question "where does it say etc" I don't have a copy of the 18th edition of the BS 7671 as I no longer do any work as I'm retired.
I do however have a well thumbed copy of the 17th BS 7671, if you are still requiring an explanation, the in my opinion you need look no further than Appendix 15 "Ring and Radial Final Circuit Arrangements Regulation 433.1 for a written and pictorial description as to why the bodge job carried out by the "Electrician" who added the 2 extra sockets in your house, Page 453 in the BYB as it is called by many Electricians, hope this helps, Oh and yes a Minor New Electrical Works Certificate should have been issued on completion of the work, and yes although flex is OK to use providing it is the same Cross sectional area of the Ring Final Circuit wiring, I personally wouldn't use flex, but that is just my preference.

 

[Strima]

And I bet there’s no ferrules on the flex either.

 

[Flanders]

If you don't have the book to hand here is the nice picture Pete is talking about

 

[happysteve]

Literally no idea what you mean.

Surely you've come across the term lollipop circuit? And know what "inverse" means?

No that is not what I meant.

A standard 2.5mm ring with a spur wired in 4mm.

I didn't suggest (nor did I mean to) that what you meant was a kebab circuit. You were clear on what you meant, you seem to be suggesting that you would be happy to have an unfused spur off a spur on a RFC if you wire the spur in 4mm. I'd describe this as an inverse lollipop circuit. I'd be happy to install a lollipop circuit (provided the top of the stick was available for inspection and testing, and the nature of the circuit was clearly labelled up in documentation and in the board), but I would not be happy to run a spur off a RFC where the potential load is greater than 20A, whether or not the current carrying capacity of the spur itself is >=32A (e.g. 4mm in some circumstances, or 6mm).

 

[Nigel]

Surely you've come across the term lollipop circuit? And know what "inverse" means?



I didn't suggest (nor did I mean to) that what you meant was a kebab circuit. You were clear on what you meant, you seem to be suggesting that you would be happy to have an unfused spur off a spur on a RFC if you wire the spur in 4mm. I'd describe this as an inverse lollipop circuit. I'd be happy to install a lollipop circuit (provided the top of the stick was available for inspection and testing, and the nature of the circuit was clearly labelled up in documentation and in the board), but I would not be happy to run a spur off a RFC where the potential load is greater than 20A, whether or not the current carrying capacity of the spur itself is >=32A (e.g. 4mm in some circumstances, or 6mm).

Just because you do not be happy to does not make it wrong. It is a perfectly acceptable wiring option and completely in-line with BS 7671.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

No issues as far as I am concerned. For some reason which I can only put down to homosexual urges, Dill seems to be tracking my posts and replying with silly replies in a vain attempt to make him seem smart and for me to seem stupid.

This has failed everytime. Maybe now he has learnt.

Which one are you?
The kettle or the pot?