Defibrillator Install in Phone Box

[Strima]

I was involved in the initial stages of adding mobile phone small cells (PICO) to this style of phone box, the KX100 and KX100+.

All of the original boxes were supplied as a TT with no earth, as all the items were class 2 there was no requirement for an earth.

As the kit we were installing was class 1 BT went round and added an earth electrode, normally a rod installed behind the power panel. They also added SMART RCD and 6 amp MCB for us to terminate into.

Have you carried out a Ze on the supply to see if you're getting a good earth through the cabinet root?

This was mounted onto a DIN rail on the ply sheet behind the power panel.

Some had main switches and some didn't but you might be able to get away with using the existing fuse carrier for the light to provide an isolation point for you to install the supply for the defib unit.

On another project we did install a DIN rail in the cab with RCD and fuse carrier etc with a Perspex cover over the top to prevent accidental contact. This was in a cabinet that required a tool to open it, might give you an option.



TBH there's lots of options for you to use so whatever your budget allows.

 

[Nathan9]

I was involved in the initial stages of adding mobile phone small cells (PICO) to this style of phone box, the KX100 and KX100+.

All of the original boxes were supplied as a TT with no earth, as all the items were class 2 there was no requirement for an earth.

As the kit we were installing was class 1 BT went round and added an earth electrode, normally a rod installed behind the power panel. They also added SMART RCD and 6 amp MCB for us to terminate into.

Have you carried out a Ze on the supply to see if you're getting a good earth through the cabinet root?

This was mounted onto a DIN rail on the ply sheet behind the power panel.

Some had main switches and some didn't but you might be able to get away with using the existing fuse carrier for the light to provide an isolation point for you to install the supply for the defib unit.

On another project we did install a DIN rail in the cab with RCD and fuse carrier etc with a Perspex cover over the top to prevent accidental contact. This was in a cabinet that required a tool to open it, might give you an option.

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TBH there's lots of options for you to use so whatever your budget allows.

Thanks for this. I haven't done a Ze yet. But this has gave me a great starting point.

 

[bill01803]

I think you will find that phone box supplies are classed as IT

 

[R-fur]

think you will find that phone box supplies are classed as IT

I don't think so. IT supplies are prohibited on a public network.

 

[Strima]

I think you will find that phone box supplies are classed as IT

All I have dealt with are either TNC-S or TT. They're normally fed from the public supply so IT is a no go.

 

[richy3333]

We've done a few of these. The DNO will have an earth in service head and you will need to ask them to supply it (at cost). We fitted a CU into a large enclosure as client wanted a double socket and PIR light The sealed enclosure stops anyone using their power. The defibrillator is easy to wire up.

If you want anymore info then please DM me

 

[boca33]

We are also installing a defibrillator in an old-style K6 kiosk.
The defibrillator itself is double insulated.
If the only equipment is teh defib and an, out of reach, double insulated LED light...... would we need an earth rod?