Diversity Calc Commercial Dishwasher 6.5kW single element

[Ray Pooley]

For the record. Plug and socket undamaged. No signs of overheating on plug or socket. Been lke this for 3 years. Machine was brought in to replace a 3.1kW machine. Installed by the vendor.

 

[DPG]

So, can you post a photo of how the plug is wired. And how the cord grip is fitted. Have you looked yet? I think we all know how it's going to look.

 

[telectrix]

It's easy to fit a plug on a 4mm flex. first curt back the sheath so the cord grip can clamp om the pretty coloured conductor basic insulation. then cut half the strands off the stripped ends. Don't forget to fit 1.5mm ferrules before inserting into the pins. Tighten with a calibrated torque screwdriver. And remember to fit the "plug top" before inserting into the socket outlet, wich, of course will be the 3rd double along a 4 socket unfused spur.

 

[Ray Pooley]

It's easy to fit a plug on a 4mm flex. first curt back the sheath so the cord grip can clamp om the pretty coloured conductor basic insulation. then cut half the strands off the stripped ends. Don't forget to fit 1.5mm ferrules before inserting into the pins. Tighten with a calibrated torque screwdriver. And remember to fit the "plug top" before inserting into the socket outlet, wich, of course will be the 3rd double along a 4 socket unfused spur.

Exactly right except the strands don't appear to have been trimmed. No ferrules in this case.

 

[DPG]

Exactly right except the strands don't appear to have been trimmed. No ferrules in this case.

So it's connected up in a non suitable way which should be sorted ideally.

 

[snowhead]

Did you check the current to see if it really is 6.5kw?

 

[Ray Pooley]

So it's connected up in a non suitable way which should be sorted ideally.

Not recommened that's true. But here's what I know. There are no signs of damage to either plug or socket after 3 years of service 7 days a week. About 3,300 wash cycles. The plug has a 13A fuse in it that is in tact and has never needed to replaced. That's not to say that the current doesn't rise above 13A. I posted a John ward video earlier that show John destroying a power cable. The socket, plug and fuse that John uses in his experiment are all 13A and don't appear to suffer even though the current gets as high as 23A over a period of about 30 minutes. Theoretically the fuse should have blown at 21A.

Did you check the current to see if it really is 6.5kw?

No. It's not what I am there to do. I don't think I need to tbh. It's going to me more than 13A. This is purely an observation. I will make a recommendation but I doubt it will be followed up. There are no signs of damage to either plug or socket after 3 years of service 7 days a week. About 3,300 wash cycles. The plug has a 13A fuse in it that is in tact and has never needed to replaced. That's not to say that the current doesn't rise above 13A. I posted a John ward video earlier that show John destroying a power cable. The socket, plug and fuse that John uses in his experiment are all 13A and don't appear to suffer even though the current gets as high as 23A over a period of about 30 minutes. Theoretically the fuse should have blown at 21A. Finally, the circuit is supported by a B32 so the only weak link, so to speak, is the actual plug and socket. From the owner's perpective there doesn't appear to be any real incentive to go to the expense of installing a dedicated circuit.

 

[DPG]

Not recommened that's true. But here's what I know. There are no signs of damage to either plug or socket after 3 years of service 7 days a week. About 3,300 wash cycles. The plug has a 13A fuse in it that is in tact and has never needed to replaced. That's not to say that the current doesn't rise above 13A. I posted a John ward video earlier that show John destroying a power cable. The socket, plug and fuse that John uses in his experiment are all 13A and don't appear to suffer even though the current gets as high as 23A over a period of about 30 minutes. Theoretically the fuse should have blown at 21A.

No. It's not what I am there to do. I don't think I need to tbh. It's going to me more than 13A. This is purely an observation. I will make a recommendation but I doubt it will be followed up. There are no signs of damage to either plug or socket after 3 years of service 7 days a week. About 3,300 wash cycles. The plug has a 13A fuse in it that is in tact and has never needed to replaced. That's not to say that the current doesn't rise above 13A. I posted a John ward video earlier that show John destroying a power cable. The socket, plug and fuse that John uses in his experiment are all 13A and don't appear to suffer even though the current gets as high as 23A over a period of about 30 minutes. Theoretically the fuse should have blown at 21A. Finally, the circuit is supported by a B32 so the only weak link, so to speak, is the actual plug and socket. From the owner's perpective there doesn't appear to be any real incentive to go to the expense of installing a dedicated circuit.

I would strongly recommend that they look at it. Will only get worse over time not better.

And get a suitable method of connection that is compatible with 4mm cable.

 

[westward10]

Not recommened that's true. But here's what I know. There are no signs of damage to either plug or socket after 3 years of service 7 days a week. About 3,300 wash cycles. The plug has a 13A fuse in it that is in tact and has never needed to replaced. That's not to say that the current doesn't rise above 13A. I posted a John ward video earlier that show John destroying a power cable. The socket, plug and fuse that John uses in his experiment are all 13A and don't appear to suffer even though the current gets as high as 23A over a period of about 30 minutes. Theoretically the fuse should have blown at 21A.

No. It's not what I am there to do. I don't think I need to tbh. It's going to me more than 13A. This is purely an observation. I will make a recommendation but I doubt it will be followed up. There are no signs of damage to either plug or socket after 3 years of service 7 days a week. About 3,300 wash cycles. The plug has a 13A fuse in it that is in tact and has never needed to replaced. That's not to say that the current doesn't rise above 13A. I posted a John ward video earlier that show John destroying a power cable. The socket, plug and fuse that John uses in his experiment are all 13A and don't appear to suffer even though the current gets as high as 23A over a period of about 30 minutes. Theoretically the fuse should have blown at 21A. Finally, the circuit is supported by a B32 so the only weak link, so to speak, is the actual plug and socket. From the owner's perpective there doesn't appear to be any real incentive to go to the expense of installing a dedicated circuit.

It's no good speculating and watching YouTube videos. In my guessed opinion from the link I posted in #19 is that the load is nowhere near what you are predicting and that it has been altered to enable 13A operation but the flex has not been reduced in csa. Or it is exceeding the13A rating but nowhere near what you think. If you are going to suggest someone takes action with this be precise with your information and measure the current draw.

 

[Ray Pooley]

It's no good speculating and watching YouTube videos. In my guessed opinion from the link I posted in #19 is that the load is nowhere near what you are predicting and that it has been altered to enable 13A operation but the flex has not been reduced in csa. Or it is exceeding the13A rating but nowhere near what you think. If you are going to suggest someone takes action with this be precise with your information and measure the current draw.

It hasn't been altered.

 

[Jim_e_Jib]

Are you not even the tiniest bit curious to see what current it is drawing though?

If it is drawing 28 or so amps, you have the nirvana of 13A plugtop and socket combinations and should be recommending the combination to everyone!

 

[Ray Pooley]

Are you not even the tiniest bit curious to see what current it is drawing though?

If it is drawing 28 or so amps, you have the nirvana of 13A plugtop and socket combinations and should be recommending the combination to everyone!

Yes I am. If she acts on the recommendation I will check it before I change it.