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Always makes me smile when the comments turn to the whole family died in a fire caused by not conforming to ....................whatever, if the family died I would think the house was a right off and the consumer unit and electric circuits/cables destroyed along with the house, how is anyone going to know if anything conformed or was complied with prior to the fire or who is too blame, fire investigations officer's can only go so far, and I don't think they are clairvoyant.
How dare you Micheal. They all died because I didn't have a torque screwdriver
 
How dare you Micheal. They all died because I didn't have a torque screwdriver
I humbly apologise and vow to throw myself on my sword the next time it leaves its scabbard, I have to warn you though that the last time I tried I missed.
 
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Certainly for the most critical ones for cylinder head, etc.

While using a torque wrench to get predictable forces is better than nothing it is not really that accurate. The wrench might be something like +/-3% in terms of torque applied, but that variability of friction on the threads and surface of the fasteners can make the resulting preload up to +/-30% variability.

With angle-tightening you take up the free play and then use the geometry of the thread to stretch/compress by a certain length which relates to the desired preload, though I believe it really only works well on long (w.r.t diameter) fasteners (like cylinder head studs, etc).

The 'feel' of tightening is another method that has been automated to get better results than torque, etc. For anyone who is interested here is a brief guide:
Most of the boxer air cooled engines have very long studs from the crankcase through the cylinders and cylinder heads, the ones I have torqued had very necked areas in their length, designed to stretch at a set torque and pre-tention the cylinders and heads to each other.

Wow that brings back memories it was over forty years ago.
 
Always makes me smile when the comments turn to the whole family died in a fire caused by not conforming to ....................whatever, if the family died I would think the house was a right off and the consumer unit and electric circuits/cables destroyed along with the house, how is anyone going to know if anything conformed or was complied with prior to the fire or who is too blame, fire investigations officer's can only go so far, and I don't think they are clairvoyant.
Fire Service have an alternative cause for "Don't Know". it's called "electrical fault".
 
In the old days when loads of people smoked , most house fires seemed to be put down to someone falling a sleep with a lighted smoke in their hand...

Now it seems to be because the electrician didn't use a torque wrench 🙃
 
Might i recommend that all the terminals that require a specific torque,be replaced by either a crimp,or soldering.....because we never have any fallings out,over those methods 😉
I'm surprised that spring-loaded arrangements like the Wagos have not made it to CUs yet. Would avoid a lot of these issues by design!
 

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