Do I require a fuseboard ?

[rockman]

Hello there, can anyone tell me to which regulation I should have a fuseboard ?
I have looked at Reg 533.1 but it does not say I cannot have one to a different regulation number.
The scenario is thus:
A council run block of flats.
It is an outside scenario in a mains cupboard.
It is supplying outside lights from a fused spur.
It comes directly off the mains supply to a main fuse to BS88 supplied by the electricity company.
To an ordinary switched fused spur. (In double insulated cables (6mm with a 10mm earth)
From here it travels in the wall to a set of outside lights high on the wall.
Can anybody tell me what regulation we are breaking.
No smart answers please.

 

[Paul.M]

I've re-read the opening post, doh.

A switched fused spur can be used as the isolating switch if it is in a lockable enclosure. If not then a lockable MCB/RCD must be used so the circuit can be safely isolated so it can be worked on.

 

[decolad69]

Hello there, can anyone tell me to which regulation I should have a fuseboard ?
I have looked at Reg 533.1 but it does not say I cannot have one to a different regulation number.
The scenario is thus:
A council run block of flats.
It is an outside scenario in a mains cupboard.
It is supplying outside lights from a fused spur.
It comes directly off the mains supply to a main fuse to BS88 supplied by the electricity company.
To an ordinary switched fused spur. (In double insulated cables (6mm with a 10mm earth)
From here it travels in the wall to a set of outside lights high on the wall.
Can anybody tell me what regulation we are breaking.
No smart answers please.

You don't require a fuse board as the lighting is "run" by the council why don't you speak to them ? And let them decide, and yes, this is a smart answer. I, we, they are responsible for the external lighting.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Sorry to the OP, no you cant. Its for outside lights and needs to be on an RCD/RCBO. Get an electrician to do this so it can be tested, certed and notified.

If you are suggesting that the reason for an RCD is 'outside lights' you are mistaken...there's no specific requirement for external fixed equipment to be RCD'd.....OP states 'cables in wall'...a bit vague but may or may not need RCD protection depending on installation method.

 

[odawire]

If you are suggesting that the reason for an RCD is 'outside lights' you are mistaken...there's no specific requirement for external fixed equipment to be RCD'd.....OP states 'cables in wall'...a bit vague but may or may not need RCD protection depending on installation method.

Yea but its existing anyway so def no need for rcd protection at all

 

[Plonker 3]

Yea but its existing anyway so def no need for rcd protection at all

Unless it was installed after 17th ediotion cae into force and doesnt comply with 522.6.100

 

[odawire]

Unless it was installed after 17th ediotion cae into force and doesnt comply with 522.6.100

We don't know when it was installed

 

[Plonker 3]

Thats my point.

 

[odawire]

Surely in a real life situation you would assume it was done before 17th edition?

 

[Plonker 3]

assume= --- out of U and ME

Never assume anything it is a dangerous thing.

 

[odawire]

fair enough, but unless theres information or evidence you have to assume 1 way or the other

 

[Plonker 3]

I would call it professional judgement. There are usually several different signs to the determine the age of a install. Not everyone knows them, there fore that is why I would call it that.