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I did some work for a lady a few months back just before christmas. she was selling the house and had me change some outdoor lights that had gone rusty, stopped working (bulbs non replaceable). Installed 4 new lights that the lady supplied (cheap LAP wall lights).

Had a call this afternoon from the new owner, who got my details from the minor cert that the previous owner had supplied as part of the house sale and copy previous owner had left next to consumer unit.
The new owner wants me to go fix one of the lights that has stopped working, says in the covering letter still attached to the minor certificate that I provided a 12 month guarantee on workmanship and supplied parts.

I explained as politely as i could that my guarantee was part of the contract between my self and the previous owner and nothing to do with him. Also I only fitted the lights and didn't supply them if the lights failed then not my problem.
He then quotes a load of consumer rights nonsense at me, telling me I did the work so am responsible as per the 12 month guarantee! and how do I know its not my work and it is the light that has failed. I should go out and check, where necessary fixing the issue.

I have said quite firmly no, I have no responsibility beyond that agreed between myself and the previous owner. He tells me he is going to contact trading standards of which I have no great concern about.

Would you all tell him to jog on as-well? after all the guarantee was with the previous owner. Its a bit different if you do a full job on a new build where the people who buy the house differs from the main customer but minor jobs like this is a different ball game.
 
And this is part of why, decorative light fittings aside I am either supply and fit or not generally doing the job. I'm not a labour only service. I have a business to run, if I wanted subby work 1 homeowner isn't what I'd be after.

If customer gets arsey about it, I say, well, you don't take a bit of fish and some potatoes down to the chip shop and ask them to cook you fish and chips!
 
And this is part of why, decorative light fittings aside I am either supply and fit or not generally doing the job. I'm not a labour only service. I have a business to run, if I wanted subby work 1 homeowner isn't what I'd be after.

If customer gets arsey about it, I say, well, you don't take a bit of fish and some potatoes down to the chip shop and ask them to cook you fish and chips!

Never done it with chips but i have took a nice extra large haddock down the chippy and asked them to cook it for me and put it with a bag of chips it was too big to fit in any cooker i had. I got the fish of my brother who works at a fish factory and it was massive.
 
I did some work for a lady a few months back just before christmas. she was selling the house and had me change some outdoor lights that had gone rusty, stopped working (bulbs non replaceable). Installed 4 new lights that the lady supplied (cheap LAP wall lights).

Had a call this afternoon from the new owner, who got my details from the minor cert that the previous owner had supplied as part of the house sale and copy previous owner had left next to consumer unit.
The new owner wants me to go fix one of the lights that has stopped working, says in the covering letter still attached to the minor certificate that I provided a 12 month guarantee on workmanship and supplied parts.

I explained as politely as i could that my guarantee was part of the contract between my self and the previous owner and nothing to do with him. Also I only fitted the lights and didn't supply them if the lights failed then not my problem.
He then quotes a load of consumer rights nonsense at me, telling me I did the work so am responsible as per the 12 month guarantee! and how do I know its not my work and it is the light that has failed. I should go out and check, where necessary fixing the issue.

I have said quite firmly no, I have no responsibility beyond that agreed between myself and the previous owner. He tells me he is going to contact trading standards of which I have no great concern about.

Would you all tell him to jog on as-well? after all the guarantee was with the previous owner. Its a bit different if you do a full job on a new build where the people who buy the house differs from the main customer but minor jobs like this is a different ball game.

Definitely a jog on or a formal reply stating that as the lights were not supplied by yourself they were never included in the warranty so yes you will come round and check it but should it be the light fitting and not your workmanship or installed equipment ie the cabling etc the visit shall be subject to a call out fee plus any subsequent cost to install a new fitting which the customer shall supply, As you do not supply LAP fittings.
Just be sure to make it very clear what is and what isn’t covered by the warranty.
 
Personally I would have gone around to assay the problem, could have been future work. But I am like that! As you say your contract applied to supplied parts only and you did not supply the lights. Further the contract as you say was between you and another party. The new owner has no privity with that contract and cannot therefore rely upon it. In order for a contract to be valid there must be something of value exchanged like you did the work and the lady paid the money. I would have rather said what I would and would not do face to face. But then as you say if the alarm was ringing for nightmare customer, as you were then!
 
My two penny worth. The contract you had and was paid for, was with the original owner. The new purchaser of the property, would of had any guarantees verified and confirmed by their conveyancing solicitor. Were you contacted by their solicitor to confirm the transfer of your guarantee's or warranty :rolleyes:

Ring the CAB and see if they would advise you?
 
If you didn't supply the lights then surely you cannot have a warrenty on them, usually if you do supply them you can take them back to the wholesaler, in this case you cannot so get the new householder to ring the old householder and ask them to take the light back lol, what a complete farce.
 
I would be confirming to the new owner that I would be willing to come round and check (as a matter of good will) that the parts I had supplied were not faulty.

If the lights are faulty, then my minimum first hour charge of ÂŁ50 applies, plus the cost of any parts and / or additional time.
 

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