do you need the pat testing qualification

[chris-]

do i need the pat testing qualification or can i just use my pat tester and then keep a log or do you have to give results to niceic or council

 

[Guitarist]

That's why I was worried that there may be a "dumbed-down" electrical qualification for them. We all know that getting a proper electrical apprenticeship, with experience and qualifications takes years, so I think we are safe. It's not like you can do it in 5 weeks!!!

 

[Toby Kuhnert]

I asked my tutor at college this the other day, he said that in a court of law, the level 3 (2330) qualification that i'm working towards, would automatically override any other pat testing qualification. Is this true? He added that the City and Guilds PAT testing qualification is mainly aimed at persons who have little or no electrical knowledge, landlords, business owners etc.

 

[Engineer54]

I asked my tutor at college this the other day, he said that in a court of law, the level 3 (2330) qualification that i'm working towards, would automatically override any other pat testing qualification. Is this true? He added that the City and Guilds PAT testing qualification is mainly aimed at persons who have little or no electrical knowledge, landlords, business owners etc.

Makes a lot more sense to me!! lol!! But never in a month of Sunday's is a PAT course C&G a level 3 qualification, ...That's just farcical nonsense!!

 

[oldtimer]

I asked my tutor at college this the other day, he said that in a court of law, the level 3 (2330) qualification that i'm working towards, would automatically override any other pat testing qualification. Is this true? He added that the City and Guilds PAT testing qualification is mainly aimed at persons who have little or no electrical knowledge, landlords, business owners etc.

I agree but the problem is because the hived off PAT to 2377 I used to get asked are you a qualified PAT tester I used to say yes as a qualified approved electrician I can do this. So why have they got a seperate qualification then and wheres yours ? Hence why I sat it and of course you could say the same for I&T 2390,

 

[ackbarthestar]

I agree but the problem is because the hived off PAT to 2377 I used to get asked are you a qualified PAT tester I used to say yes as a qualified approved electrician I can do this. So why have they got a seperate qualification then and wheres yours ? Hence why I sat it and of course you could say the same for I&T 2390,

I can't see the fuss with PAT as a form of evidence to show some form of compliance with HASAWA, EAWR and PUWER. since it was designed to supplement any basic electrical work and also provide some form of basic training for those who are not directly involved with installation but more maintenance.
Then, I don't know of any college that includes PAT as part of the basic level Electrical Installations course, although it was briefly mentioned as a question in the 236 I did and was included in one of the exams.

 

[richard.cs]

I used to PAT test second-hand appliences for a charity before they were sold. Their rules basically defined "competant" as "Common sense + general electrical knowledge + ability to read" rather than requiring a specific qualification. So far as I know they had legal advice which indicated this was fine.

 

[ackbarthestar]

I would agree, common sense and a level of experience coupled with electrical knowledge. I think the point i was making was that 2377 PAT gave some form of quantification to that level of electrical knowledge. Since any Tom, Dick or Hardhat can say they are competent but not all appear to be able to pass this qualification.

One bad example of poor initial assessment was 12 prison officers were considered not to be 'pulling their weight' by their employer because they were found to be sat around all day watching TV screens.

Their employer wanted to get their 'pound of flesh' and so stuck them all on a 1 day PAT course .

Needless to say they all failed. Lol

 

[Toby Kuhnert]

One of the places I'm currently sub-contracted to, they do the PAT testing themselves - Bought a tester, watched the DVD and told me because they watched the DVD, they were competent. To be honest by looking at the state of the tools in the workshop, they would all fail on a visual! terrible

 

[brman]

One of the places I'm currently sub-contracted to, they do the PAT testing themselves - Bought a tester, watched the DVD and told me because they watched the DVD, they were competent. To be honest by looking at the state of the tools in the workshop, they would all fail on a visual! terrible

probably this one.... Learn how to PAT Test
and you even get to print your own certificate at the end :lol:

 

[oldtimer]

Well at least he said if it did not have a plug on it then a qualified electrician would have to test it

 

[Guitarist]

probably this one.... Learn how to PAT Test
and you even get to print your own certificate at the end :lol:

That's a steal at only £77.99 !!!
Plus, if you fail the multiple choice exam at the end, you can retake it for free !!!

 

[oldtimer]

That's a steal at only £77.99 !!!
Plus, if you fail the multiple choice exam at the end, you can retake it for free !!!

When I took mind at my local technical college I had to take a picture ID with me for the C&G guy but with this you could get someone to sit it for you or have a few guys around to help out

 

[Guitarist]

He said that "any competent member of staff" can carry out portable appliance testing. Sorted