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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

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Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[Teddy Lop]

To be fair those brick lights a near impossible to waterproof.

I find the best way with anything on a retaining wall is to empty the guts into the nearest bin, fit a g4 lampholder and feed via a transformer...

 

[brianmoooore]

If you can't make it waterproof, arrange for it to have an effective drain.

 

[Raptor0014]

What do you do if you decide to cut corners and realise your enclosure won’t take an armoured gland, but you need to earth the armour to your 2 core SWA?

Et voila

I do despair sometimes with some of the things I see. I wouldn’t mind but it’s not even tight.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Seen this LOADS of time , done with an earth clamp or hose pipe clamp

I even witnessed a NIC sparks do this on site and he said it was an 'acceptable' solution to a problem

 

[telectrix]

IMO, that's about as acceptable as Rudolph pulling Santa's sleigh after a vindaloo.

 

[pirate]

To be fair, I would have been happy if it was a proper stainless steel Jubilee clip...the bzp skimpy ones are just rubbish!
You can also avoid corrosion by using a plastic cable tie...they won't harm the armouring at all!

 

[Raptor0014]

4 x 2.5 plug socket radials into one 32a MCB.

 

[ChipFanDave]

To be fair, I would have been happy if it was a proper stainless steel Jubilee clip...the bzp skimpy ones are just rubbish!
You can also avoid corrosion by using a plastic cable tie...they won't harm the armouring at all!

Not sure you should be using stainless steel on SWA as the armour strands are galvanised. Looks like it should be the cable tie!

 

[Dustydazzler]

The 4 x 2.5 cables in the 32a mcb isn't that uncommon

A mate I know fits garage roller doors , if the consumer unit is in the garage he will wire a 2.5 straight into a 32a mcb

I have tried to explain to him this is a 'new circuit' be he literally don't give a sh!t and has done 100s of electric garage doors

 

[Raptor0014]

The 4 x 2.5 cables in the 32a mcb isn't that uncommon

A mate I know fits garage roller doors , if the consumer unit is in the garage he will wire a 2.5 straight into a 32a mcb

I have tried to explain to him this is a 'new circuit' be he literally don't give a sh!t and has done 100s of electric garage doors

Now I’ve always been of the understanding that a single 2.5 radial circuit can’t be any more than 20a. Regardless of how many conductors you shoehorn in.

I was also told not more than 2 conductors in any MCB but often see 3 and 4. Especially with light and smoke detector combined circuits.

But that could have just been a ‘personal regulation’ from Guru Graham (my instructor).

 

[pc1966]

2.5mm feeding multiple sockets should be on 20A, but you could use 32A for fault protection if fixed loads per circuit.

I still would not do it!

 

[littlespark]

You can spur from a 32A mcb if the other cables form a ring…
But agree that this is a radial circuit with 4 branches from source, and should be 16 or 20A depending on routing and load.

 

[brianmoooore]

The four 2.5mm2 radials are OK as long as there is a maximum of one 2G 13A socket on the end of each. I.e., a maximum load of 20A each.
If any of the radials feeds more than one socket, then a 13A FCU should be connected before the string of sockets, OR, as any sane person would do, the 32A MCB should be replaced by a 20 or 16A.
There is no limit to the number of wires to a MCB, as long as their total csa doesn't exceed the maximum for the terminal, and they are fitted in such a way that they are all secure.
I recently attended a "lighting MCB trips RCD" event, and found no less that 8 x 1.0mm2 connected to the MCB. Tracing the fault to just one light took minutes, without any floorboard lifting.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Seen quite a few older installs with 5 or 6 x 1mm cables in a single 6a mcb

Usually things like door bell and under stair light all rammed in the same mcb

 

[brianmoooore]

Mine was one that had 'grown' since the original install. The faulty circuit was one that I had actually added when I fitted a new central heating boiler. Boiler is in a W.C, accessed from outside, and I fitted an IP55 light switch inside the door, with a 20mm conduit up into the ceiling. A shower enclosure has since been fitted in the bathroom above, and it has a small leak, directly above the top of my conduit. Switch was half full of water.
What are the odds?