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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[Mike Johnson]

I’m waiting for a low sun to hit that glass ball thing and burn the wooden door.

Looking at the standard of the construction and as already said a builders house, the door will be PVC/Composite so will melt rather than burn.

 

[Intoelectrics]

Whoever set out those tiles needs to be shot, above the window is near exact three tiles high and there are different cuts on either side, easiest thing in the world to make the niche the same height, Oh and the socket and pendant light.

Agreed, the lower bay tile rows don't even align with the reveals or walls. The floor is clearly uneven so instead of just adjusting the skirting tile cuts they have adjusted the first row of the tapered edged tiles also in places so its a lash up to say the least. Obviously the builder has done all the works himself to save a few bob and as usual, as you often find with many builders the finer details are very rough!

 

[Intoelectrics]

Whoever set out those tiles needs to be shot, above the window is near exact three tiles high and there are different cuts on either side, easiest thing in the world to make the niche the same height, Oh and the socket and pendant light.

I agree setting out this correctly would have made all the difference to the finish. To be fair though looking at the picture the walls, ceiling and floor look very uneven so it may not have been possible to work in the 3 full tiles as you suggested. This though is no excuse for the lack of thought, poor design and very bad workmanship!!

What's the betting that the metal socket face plate is not bonded back

 

[Aaron b]

I started fitting some Knightsbridge spots earlier but this it how it looks when the cover goes on...
I expected better from them and can't see how they can sell them in Europe.

 

[James]

if the single core cable has a layer of insulation on it underneath the heat resistant sleeve, then presumably it is a double insulated cable?

 

[Aaron b]

if the single core cable has a layer of insulation on it underneath the heat resistant sleeve, then presumably it is a double insulated cable?

It's more the brown and blue on show. Unless I used double insulated singles I don't know how it could be made compliant.

 

[James]

sorry, i misunderstood, i presumed that there was a cover to clip over them that was not in the picture.

Quite Simpley it doesn't comply with the reg's in my opinion and because of that you should not install them.

 

[James]

Remember, If the place burns down or someone is injured, It is the installer (YOU) that they come after.
Financially you will probably be ok as your insurance company will probably settle the bill if you can show that the installation was done to approved standards of the time.

Hmmm, even back to the 16th edition, i remember that single insulated cables had to be enclosed to protect from accidental damage, so you might be on a sticky wicket there.
insurance may decline payment due to the fact you have been negligent.

however, you have followed the manufacturers instructions ( I presume you have read them and followed them)
so you could pass on the liability to the manufacturer if they have sold you something unsuitable for the environment that it is designed to be installed in.

NOT a position I would like to be in.

bottom line is just use a better designed light fitting, if you think it looks unsafe, don't wire it up!!!

 

[freddo]

I don't think I've seen connectors like that on downlights since LED came about!

 

[Baddegg]

Are you there’s no more parts in the box? ….as above mate I wouldn’t use em

 

[mainline]

I started fitting some Knightsbridge spots earlier but this it how it looks when the cover goes on...
I expected better from them and can't see how they can sell them in Europe.

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Does this go into any sort of enclosure ?

 

[nicebutdim]

Does this go into any sort of enclosure ?

My guess is the ceiling void.

 

[freddo]

Does this go into any sort of enclosure ?

Tape is an enclosure right?

 

[timhoward]

I won't fit those ones. I looked into this a little once. The instruction manual for a Knightsbridge RDB1 refers to BS7671 and includes the step "replace terminal cover". Quite simply, there isn't one! It looks as though it is designed to have one but all you get is this:

They shouldn't be allowed to be sold in the UK IMHO.

 

[Aaron b]

I had the client replace them with some KSR ones that I normally install. I've been caught a few times with bad light fittings but I thought these were going to be better being a brand I knew of.